deltron80 0 #1 March 14, 2011 Has anyone ever tried to create a mechanism that sets off an audible alarm if another object approaches you within a certain distance (other than the ground). If we had an audible alert that went off when we came within ~100 feet of another parachute, do you think it would help to avert canopy collisions? I assume airplanes already have this and there is some good reason parachutists don't (would it have to involve radar?). Or, perhaps if everyone were equipped with GPS all jumpers on a load could be tracked by position that way? Nevermind the fact that this would innevitably result in other safety issues including people no longer watching for canopy traffic on their own... First and foremost people should have their head on a swivel and avoid traffic on their own, but could it be used as a last resort? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 March 14, 2011 TCAS or ADS-B for parachutes? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #3 March 14, 2011 Quote TCAS or ADS-B for parachutes? Damn! Why didn't I think of that? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 March 14, 2011 You know, I was joking, but it just occurred to me that actually using TCAS or ADS-B could be good for avoiding skydiver/aircraft collisions, and not just under canopy."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godfrog 2 #5 March 14, 2011 yeah, I got him on my fish finder!Experience is a difficult teacher, she gives you the test first and the lesson afterward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 March 14, 2011 If you are fishing for skydivers, I recommend beer as bait. If you are fishing for Wall St bankers, then hookers & blow are best."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #7 March 15, 2011 QuoteIf we had an audible alert that went off when we came within ~100 feet of another parachute, do you think it would help to avert canopy collisions? Maybe, but you run into the problem that it will be going off constantly in the pattern, especailly the closer you get to the ground. It's the same problem with the systems in planes. When you make them sensitive enough to avoid collisions in the air, they go off constanly when on the ground or on the runway. Any plane on or approaching the airport with a transponder on will set it off. In the air, it works because it gives you enough warning to avoid a collision, but on the ground, not so much. The upside to the system in airplanes is that the airport and pattern area are generally tightly controlled. Even on an uncontrolled field, there are radio procedures intended to keep everyone 'on the same page', so even if your TCAS is going off non-stop, you have the radio procedures to keep you in the clear. For parachutes, as soon as the pattern tightens up (near the ground) it will be going off all the time, with the jumper not knowing if it's due to canopies 'safely' near-by in the pattern, or one on a collision course. It's a neat idea, but on it's own a general audible warning has some short comings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 March 15, 2011 Quote If you are fishing for skydivers, I recommend beer as bait. If you are fishing for Wall St bankers, then hookers & blow are best. You might as well tie a potato to a string and drag it through South Boston, thanks for com'n out! I think that the Crew dogs should wear the alarms, just to jack with them.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 March 15, 2011 Quote You know, I was joking, So was I. Better idea. Reduce the military's Joint Precision Air Drop System GPS canopy guidance package to a manageable weight for skydivers. That would be something even a young college kid could get into. http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/jpads-making-precision-airdrop-a-reality-0678/My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrmrangers 0 #10 March 15, 2011 Did someone say hookers and blow? I'm in Wait , I pull what first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 March 15, 2011 Quote TCAS or ADS-B for parachutes? or FLARM http://www.flarm.com/index_en.htmlscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
