dan_iv 0 #1 March 3, 2005 ok, i'm looking for a rig and found one where the reserve has never been pulled or repacked since it was purchased in 99. Is it bad to leave your reserve packed for so long? should I forget about offering this guy my $$$ for his rig? Thanks for your insight.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #2 March 3, 2005 It isn't necessarily bad, but there are some bad possibilities. You shouldn't consider buying it until it is thoroughally inspected and tested by a rigger. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #3 March 3, 2005 that's pretty much what I figured, one more question since i just thought about it, the seller told me that the yoke is a C and harnes 19 1/2, later 22, leg 23 measurements? I can't seem to find information that would let me know whether it is a decent size for me or not, i'm suspecting probably not as he said he was about 6'2" when he purchased it and i'm only 5'8.5" on a good day.... oh well.... if somebody could point me an that direction I would be gratefull as well!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #4 March 3, 2005 19.5 in harness is pretty big... I'm 6ft and mine is like 18.5 I think...NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #5 March 3, 2005 dang, i figured that was going to be the case.... oh well back to my searching i guess.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #6 March 4, 2005 I'm 6'2" and in a 20 inch MLW its tight, I really need about a 21 or so. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #7 March 4, 2005 If your profile is correct bro i would hold off on buying gear with only 10 jumps. You haven't even begun to explore where the sport is going to take you yet and the size of canopy that you're going to buy at this stage in your skydiving career isn't going to last you very long. I'd stick with student gear and then rentals till at least 50 jumps and start looking from there. Of course this is JMHO Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #8 March 4, 2005 Quote If your profile is correct bro i would hold off on buying gear with only 10 jumps. You haven't even begun to explore where the sport is going to take you yet and the size of canopy that you're going to buy at this stage in your skydiving career isn't going to last you very long. I'd stick with student gear and then rentals till at least 50 jumps and start looking from there. Of course this is JMHO well my profile is correct, and I appreciate your comments. ok, here is my thought process, currently jumped a 210 for last 5 jumps, AFFI is going to downsize me in the next jump or so, most likely to a 190. I have spoke to my AFFI's about canopy selection already and they seem to agree with me that a 170 or a 190 would be the right choice for me to start w/ as well as a canopy that I should be able to put around 200 jumps on before downsizing.. So i'm fairly agressive and am looking for a 170. why pay for rental gear for say 20 jumps? that would be wasting 200 - 500 bucks in my opinion. I will be taking Scott Miller's canopy course in june as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #9 March 4, 2005 Closed reserves deteriorate at a ridiculously slow rate (40+ years) when stored in clean, dry, dark closets. Properly stored parachutes fall out of fashion far faster than they rust. Hee! Hee! C 19.5 sounds like a tall harness with medium-sized shoulder yoke. Do you have medium-sized shoulders? Since it sounds like you are considering a Javelin made in 1999, be sure to remind your local rigger about the (minor) Service Bulletin affecting older (pre 2000) Javelins. You could look it up yourself on Sun Path's website or that of the Australian Parachute Federation, however, it is still best to ask your local rigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #10 March 4, 2005 thanks for the info rob, i like your comment about them falling out of fashion faster then they rust that harness was one i was looking at in the classifieds after talking w/ the seller. considering the other comments this is going to be pretty long for me so i'm not really considering it any longer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 March 4, 2005 Yuor first 30 jumps is mostlikely the ones where you are going to crash, biff in , drag th gear and just abuse it the most. What happens if you get to the 190 and the instructors decide that a 190 is perfect for you and a 170 is too small? You would still have to end up renting gear until they think you are ready to downsize to a 170 even though you already own a rig. That might take 100 jumps or more until they feel that you are ready to jump your own rig. Are you wanting to rent that whole time?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #12 March 4, 2005 very good points, now from what i've read around here if I were to buy a container made for a 170, theoretically i should be able to put a 190 or a 150 in it, correct? if that is true and the scenario you described does occur, then I would purchase a 190 main and have fun packing it untill i am ready to jump the 170. thank again, you guys here all rock! i have learned more here then I have anywhere else by just reading posts and searching.... EDIT: my biggest problem is i have the $$ for it now and am impatient.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #13 March 4, 2005 Age does not weaken parachutes or make them unsafe.Wear and tear alone do. Sealed and shelved nylon does not deteriorate with time. It is weakened only by outside elements and effects such as wear, dirt, and ultra-violet light. Forty year-old samples of nylon fabric have been known to test as well as the day they were made.---Poynter Parachute Manual pp. 354-355 In other words it is better to keep it packed in it's protective sealed container than it is to subject it to regular use. As mentioned already I would hold off on buying gear until you have more jumps but I would not shy away from gear that has been properly stored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #14 March 4, 2005 QuoteAge does not weaken parachutes or make them unsafe.Wear and tear alone do. Sealed and shelved nylon does not deteriorate with time... My initial comment encouraging caution was based on factors such as, is there a cypres present? If so, battery leakage can be a serious reality. Also, do we know anything about the storage conditions, humidity, fumes, sunlight.... I think we do not, so my cautionary advice still stands. I am in complete agreement about parachutes stored in ideal, and unambiguous conditions. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #15 March 4, 2005 I agree, of course any rig that has been stored that long should be inspected and tested before returning to use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #16 March 4, 2005 Being impatient is a great way to spend a lot of money on something that is'nt right for you and you end up being stuck with it for a long time. What size reserve do the containers hold? If it holds a 170 main odds are it is designed to hold a 160 reserve. Clearly that reserve is too small for you so you would'nt want that rig right? It takes time and you need to work with your instructors and rigger to determine the best rig for size and fit for you and the canopies you need.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #17 March 4, 2005 those are good points, man sometimes really think I just need to chill out a bit, and maybe i will do just that. As far as reserve sides you are absolutely right, as I wouldn't want to be caugh flying something smaller then I have ever flown especially under those types of circumstances. Thanks again for everyones comments and advice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
