skydiver30960 0 #1 April 5, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/jet-makes-blind-landing-in-new-orleans-24793997 All the pilots and ATC controllers deserve (and probably need) to have many s bought for them. Elvisio "good job, guys" Rodriguez P.S. The FAA is a mass of red tape and bureaucracy, but I will say that the coolest three words I can ever think of hearing in an aircraft emergency are "say your intentions." Although we didn't hear it on this clip, it's ATC's response for an in-flight emergency, it gives you absolute autonomy to do whatever the PIC feels is necessary, and I think it's awesome. Another P.S.: Ever since I've been involved in EMS, I've always been slightly chilled whenever an air medical unit reported "souls on board." Definitely a gut check now that I'm in the industry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #2 April 5, 2011 Quote Another P.S.: Ever since I've been involved in EMS, I've always been slightly chilled whenever an air medical unit reported "souls on board." Definitely a gut check now that I'm in the industry. Probably the same as hearing a MEDEVAC bird go from 2 WIA to 1 WIA, 1 Angel. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #3 April 5, 2011 Quote Although we didn't hear it on this clip, it's ATC's response for an in-flight emergency, it gives you absolute autonomy to do whatever the PIC feels is necessary, Yep, they did a nice job on both sides of the radio, staying calm and working the problem. The PAR they spoke of is not "back up instruments" but precision approach radar, where the controllers guide the aircraft to the runway using radar vectors. I've done that a couple of times. I worked "smoke in the cockpit" once. I still get chills when I remember the pilot's voice when he called with it. It's a very serious situation. It's funny you mention that an emergency allows the pilot to diregard FARs as he sees fit. I once had to teach a pilot about that in the middle of an emergency, explaining that I couldn't clear him to do something illegal, but he could sure as hell do it if he wanted to. I've got a few thank you notes filed away that I've gotten over the years from pilots. Those mean more to me than any plaque or award I've ever been given by the FAA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 38 #4 April 5, 2011 Wow. Outstanding work all around. Many lives were saved right there.The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #5 April 5, 2011 QuoteProbably the same as hearing a MEDEVAC bird go from 2 WIA to 1 WIA, 1 Angel. Huh? WIA? Angel?Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 April 5, 2011 Quote I once had to teach a pilot about that in the middle of an emergency, explaining that I couldn't clear him to do something illegal, but he could sure as hell do it if he wanted to. You wouldn't grant the poor guy clearance to land on the Interstate?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #7 April 5, 2011 Nope, nor would I give him a descent clearance thru mountainous terrain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #8 April 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteProbably the same as hearing a MEDEVAC bird go from 2 WIA to 1 WIA, 1 Angel. Huh? WIA? Angel? Presume 'wounded in action' and 'deceased'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #9 April 5, 2011 Quote... The PAR they spoke of is not "back up instruments" but precision approach radar, where the controllers guide the aircraft to the runway using radar vectors... It wasn't reported very well. The "Glass Cockpits" (or "Box Offices" if you will) have a couple actual instruments in them, don't they? Usually an attitude gyro, Directional gyro and an airspeed indicator. They were in IMC, and the dispays all went out. They had to have something to use, the PAR directions wouldn't be enough to keep the plane flying."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #10 April 5, 2011 >Usually an attitude gyro, Directional gyro and an airspeed indicator. Generally an altimeter, too, (Although some failures, like the Airbus ADIRU/ISIS failures on Air France Flight 447, take them out as well.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #11 April 6, 2011 Quote Usually an attitude gyro, Directional gyro and an airspeed indicator. They were in IMC, and the dispays all went out. They had to have something to use, the PAR directions wouldn't be enough to keep the plane flying. Yep, without some kind of instruments you will sooner or later crash when your in the clouds. I'm thinking they had at least a back up of those 3 and an altimeter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #12 April 6, 2011 Still get chills listening to that shit. Good job by all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
