skydiverek 63 #1 March 1, 2005 I've heard a very unusual thing. Basically, one jumper I know said that if you cutaway a baglocked main, it will be useless after it hits a ground (meaning you have to buy a new canopy). His theory was that the rapid deceleration of the bag-locked main hitting the ground somehow changes the structure of the material, making it weaker. Is it true with ZP, F-111 or any other older materials, or is it a bunch of BS??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #2 March 1, 2005 I put 400 jumps on my main after a bag lock, sold it to someone else and they've done at least another 600 on it. I call BS. Blues. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 March 2, 2005 QuoteI put 400 jumps on my main after a bag lock, sold it to someone else and they've done at least another 600 on it. I call BS. I've had a similar experience. I second the motion on the "BS" call. The guy is either nuts, or he's pulling your leg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,483 #4 March 2, 2005 QuoteHis theory was that the rapid deceleration of the bag-locked main hitting the ground somehow changes... My hypothesis is that - he is mistaken.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #5 March 2, 2005 This one ===> "or is it a bunch of BS???"My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 March 2, 2005 Does this guy wear a MOJO around his neck and burn candles before jumping? I also call bull shit on this. Hitting the ground in the bag is easier on the canopy then taking a terminal opening. Think about it.SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #7 March 2, 2005 Tell your friend should he ever have to cutaway a bag lock that I'll buy his unusable canopy from him for $10.... Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 March 2, 2005 QuoteTell your friend should he ever have to cutaway a bag lock that I'll buy his unusable canopy from him for $10.... That's the best Idea I've heard so far.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #9 March 2, 2005 Quote Tell your friend should he ever have to cutaway a bag lock that I'll buy his unusable canopy from him for $10.... Keepin' it safe! Ed I'll DOUBLE itPete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 March 2, 2005 Still jumping mine......."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #11 March 2, 2005 absurd. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #12 March 2, 2005 From what altitude and is it during a full moon? I double Sids bid!Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #13 March 2, 2005 QuoteFrom what altitude and is it during a full moon? Quote It might be a factor if said canopy were packed using the old liquid nitrogen method... But only a few of us "Old Timers" still do that, and I have the optional bag heater installed on mine should the dreaded BAG LOCK occur! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #14 March 2, 2005 QuoteFrom what altitude and is it during a full moon? I double Sids bid! DAMN YOU and your big money Forsythe!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lost again Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCR10480 0 #15 March 2, 2005 Your "Friend" is humping your leg. __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 March 2, 2005 Yeah! That happened to me back in 1984. I put another 300 jumps on that Cruislite before I sold it. The guy is pulling your leg! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #17 March 2, 2005 This myth came into existence after a number of jumpers were injured jumping Novas that had been cut away during a bag lock. The manufacturer claimed that hitting the ground made those Novas susceptible to sudden collapse near the ground. Please note this is a joke. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #18 March 3, 2005 QuoteI've heard a very unusual thing. Basically, one jumper I know said that if you cutaway a baglocked main, it will be useless after it hits a ground (meaning you have to buy a new canopy). His theory was that the rapid deceleration of the bag-locked main hitting the ground somehow changes the structure of the material, making it weaker. Is it true with ZP, F-111 or any other older materials, or is it a bunch of BS??? A friend of mine cutaway a baglock, the bagged canopy landed in a woods and stayed there for at least 6 months, perhaps more before it was found. That canopy is in the air today. Your friend is full of it. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #19 March 3, 2005 I have never seen so many people that agree with each other in the same thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverton 0 #20 March 3, 2005 It might be useless if you find it after 2 weeks in the sun or rain. If you find it immediate I'll even pay $30 for it. Including the risers, bag and pilot of course, because they are useless too ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habit, Especially when you are jumping a sport rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #21 March 3, 2005 Someone i know had a canopy that he couldn't use after he chopped it due to a baglock. (of course - it may have had a little something to do with the fact that it subsequently got run over by a combine harvester......)Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrojanHorse 0 #22 March 6, 2005 Myth, If conditions are good and you find it back quite rapidly it will do just fine f111 or Zero P alike. It might have to do with the fact that caused the bag lock. I.e a bad pack job and because of that canopy damage... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #23 March 7, 2005 QuoteIt might be useless if you find it after 2 weeks in the sun or rain. If you find it immediate I'll even pay $30 for it. Including the risers, bag and pilot of course, because they are useless too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bid $35! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #24 March 7, 2005 QuoteI double Sids bid! 500 quatloos! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #25 March 9, 2005 Baglocks were a lot more prevalent in the mid 70's when the squares of the day were Para-Planes and Para-Clouds, they had a very wierd reefing system. I assure you, no one threw them away after a bag lock. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
