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JohnnyMarko

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There is a bare minimum of English grammar you need to adhere to, beyond that is the realm of the pedantic snob. "To boldly go where no man has gone before", is perfectly acceptable regardless of what these people may think.

Far more important is to write something compelling.

If you can do it with the topic at hand, tell a story.

Here's one way you might structure that;

Tell what life was like the moment before "X" happened.

Then detail all of the positive and negative ramifications if "X", without regard for anything else, simply ran to its logical conclusion.

Lastly, try to find a synthesis between what happened before "X" and "X" that brings about the greatest benefit with the fewest negatives.
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Not saying that wasn't helpful, but did you read the one question I have to answer that I posted?



Hadn't before, just did.

Ok. Awesome, you have a stereotyped character's point of view from which to tell the story. That actually makes it easier. Put yourself in the shoes of the eco-feminist and tell her side of what is good and bad. Then it looks like your instructor wants you, JohnnyMarko, to defend or deny that position.

To me it still comes down to a compelling story.
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This might get this thread shipped off to the SC, but here is one of the questions I have to answer....

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One of the federal government’s efforts to preserve wetlands (under the 2nd Bush administration) was to allow for the destruction of any natural wetland so long as a human created wetland was constructed to offset the numerical lose of the first. Outline how the eco-feminist might describe this policy as morally objectionable. Do you think the eco-feminist argument is convincing or might we see this policy as morally permissible, perhaps even upright? As always, make sure to provide some reasons for your position.




My god. Anyhow, I looked up "Ecofeminism" to see WTF it is. Here's Wiki's take on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofeminism

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Ecofeminism is a social and political movement which points to the existence of considerable common ground between environmentalism and feminism,[1] with some currents linking deep ecology and feminism.[2] Ecofeminists argue that important experiential, theoretical, and linguistic parallels exist between the oppression and subordination of women and nature in Western cultural tradition through the transformation of differences into culturally constructed conceptual binaries and ideological hierarchies that allow a systematic justification of domination ("power-over power") by subjects classed into higher-ranking categories over objects classed into lower-ranking categories (e.g. man over woman, culture over nature). Beyond these nature/culture, male/female dualisms, ecofeminists posit that the Western cosmology dichotomizes all aspects of perceived reality; in examples without a cultural "opposite," the category "x" is split into "x" and "not-x" or the absence of "x." Ecofeminists also explore the intersectionality between sexism, the domination of nature, racism, speciesism, and other characteristics of social inequality. In some of their current work, ecofeminists argue that the capitalist and patriarchal systems that predominate throughout the world reveal a triple domination of the Global South (people who live in the Third World), women, and nature.[3] This domination and exploitation of women, of poorly resourced peoples and of nature sits at the core of the ecofeminist analysis.



OMFG. As a professional writer myself, my critique of that passage is this: Whoever wrote that should be stood up against a wall and shot.

I've done some adjunct college and law school teaching, but I've always resisted the half-urge to go into academia full time. One reason is because I'd be sucked into writing shit like that to be taken seriously. Pass.

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This might get this thread shipped off to the SC, but here is one of the questions I have to answer....

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One of the federal government’s efforts to preserve wetlands (under the 2nd Bush administration) was to allow for the destruction of any natural wetland so long as a human created wetland was constructed to offset the numerical lose of the first. Outline how the eco-feminist might describe this policy as morally objectionable. Do you think the eco-feminist argument is convincing or might we see this policy as morally permissible, perhaps even upright? As always, make sure to provide some reasons for your position.


WOW that is so not written by an Ecologist:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:
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One reason is because I'd be sucked into writing shit like that to be taken seriously. Pass.



If you'd have to write shit like that to be taken seriously, then your field would not be a serious one!

I mean, how the flying fuck did they manage to get the word 'cosmology' in there?:o:S:D
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Not saying that wasn't helpful, but did you read the one question I have to answer that I posted?



Hadn't before, just did.

Ok. Awesome, you have a stereotyped character's point of view from which to tell the story. That actually makes it easier. Put yourself in the shoes of the eco-feminist and tell her side of what is good and bad. Then it looks like your instructor wants you, JohnnyMarko, to defend or deny that position.

To me it still comes down to a compelling story.

Again with the aticulate BS.
Ecofeminisim is not a FEMALE ecologist:D:D:D
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Thank you all for your suggestions. The paper has been handed in (via internet, cause that's the only way to do things these days) and I'm sure it's crap like last time. I tried making an outline and sticking to it, but as I was typing I tried adding my random thoughts in and jacked up the flow as usual. O well, hope the content is still good.

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Only a long-term suggestion: take a couple English composition courses, if the instructors are good at teaching it (which I realize isn't always a given). Seriously. Don't just accept your deficiency at a particular skill set; be proactive about improving it. Just like good driving instruction, canopy coaching or math tutoring, you'd be surprised at how much good composition instruction, combined with serious effort on your part, can improve your writing skills.



This.

I'm lucky - I'm definitely a "natural" at writing. It's easy for me. But if I think back to what really tightened up my writing - it was good teaching and lots and lots of practice. Learning not only to write but to edit (my work and the work of others) has helped me to strengthen my own work.

That started junior year of high school when each quarter we'd have four papers to do on various topics. For each paper, the first draft went to a peer for review. The second draft was the edited version based on your peer's feedback. That was the draft that went to the teacher. She could accept it as is, or give it back for revisions. This process repeated until she accepted the paper, or until you hit five drafts. At that point, you moved onto the next paper in the sequence.

That process of writing, editing, and rewriting was frustrating* but also hugely valuable (and much more like the "real world" applications of writing that I use today, where things I write are reviewed and edited multiple times).

Then I went to college and joined the newspaper so I was constantly writing with space limitations, under deadline. Being able to tell a story in that format was also good discipline - you don't have a lot of space most of the time but you've got to get a lot of information in.





*I should add this was in the olden days of the 80s when not a lot of us had word processors or PCs at home to do our work, so every rewrite involved completely retyping or rewriting. :S:D


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Yup! Did this in high school! The very nature of having an essay peer reviewed provided the initiative to actually produce something of value. We had a " 1 up " contest going, always trying to one-up each other.

I agree 100% that the best way to improve your basic english skill-set is to get some tutoring. Sentence structure and composition is simply a matter of understanding the true usage of verbs, adjectives, pronouns, nouns to name a few, and how they can convey a theory or essay.

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Anyone have any tips on how to write good philosophy papers or any other writing tips?




Yeah...tell 'em what yer gonna say...say it, then tell 'em what ya just said.

...just use different words all the time! :P










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Thank you all for your suggestions. The paper has been handed in (via internet, cause that's the only way to do things these days) and I'm sure it's crap like last time. I tried making an outline and sticking to it, but as I was typing I tried adding my random thoughts in and jacked up the flow as usual. O well, hope the content is still good.




So, how did you do? Did you have it reviewed? How many time did you re-write it? And did you wear "fuck me pumps" or hiking boots when you "put yourself in the shoes of the eco-feminist and to tell her side"?

details.... give us details.

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Thank you all for your suggestions. The paper has been handed in (via internet, cause that's the only way to do things these days) and I'm sure it's crap like last time. I tried making an outline and sticking to it, but as I was typing I tried adding my random thoughts in and jacked up the flow as usual. O well, hope the content is still good.




So, how did you do? Did you have it reviewed? How many time did you re-write it? And did you wear "fuck me pumps" or hiking boots when you "put yourself in the shoes of the eco-feminist and to tell her side"?

details.... give us details.



Won't know for a while. Thirty 5-page papers can take a while to grade. I rewrote twice, had it reviewed once. Negative on wearing pumps, thinking like a girl is hard.

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thinking like a girl is hard.


Aren't you a "shirt lifter"? Should be a sight easier for you:)
Speaking of Shirt lifters, Where the Hell is our resident Poof (Homo) Keith?
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thinking like a girl is hard.


Aren't you a "shirt lifter"? Should be a sight easier for you:)
Speaking of Shirt lifters, Where the Hell is our resident Poof (Homo) Keith?


Seems like we always lose them.
- BlueEyedMonster
- Narcimund
- Keith

Funny thing, I hadn't heard the term "poof" until I watched "RockNRolla" recently.:D
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thinking like a girl is hard.


Aren't you a "shirt lifter"? Should be a sight easier for you:)


Yes. I'm also male :|[:/]:P
Kinda hard to be a shirt lifter if you are not male;)
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thinking like a girl is hard.


Aren't you a "shirt lifter"? Should be a sight easier for you:)


Yes. I'm also male :|[:/]:P
Kinda hard to be a shirt lifter if you are not male;)


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I think you missed the intent of my original post, but never mind, your sense of humour in regards to it seems at odds with mine.:)Keith is more fun:P:P
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