millertime24 8 #1 May 22, 2011 This was a great wingsuit flight me and my buddy Tom did today. I CHALLENGE you drama-zone people to point out ONE thing I did wrong on this jump. The jump was great, The deployment was awesome, and the pattern was good. JUST ONE! that is all I'm asking for to point out where I could have done better on this jump (BTW, I'm the guy flying the camera... Not the guy who got in a flat spin on exit). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9iRirDUY1kMuff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 May 22, 2011 Was the guy in the flat spin supposed to be flying in formation with you?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 May 22, 2011 Your gloves are dirty! Oh and cut off or finger trap those toggle tails before they catch on something... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #4 May 22, 2011 QuoteWas the guy in the flat spin supposed to be flying in formation with you? Yes. But after he burned a few thousand feet in it, we (me and my buddy) figured to each his own, and flew the rest of the dive plan.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #5 May 22, 2011 Quote Your gloves are dirty! DAMNIT!!! I threw them in the wash.... Oh yeah... My old lady disappeared While I was at the DZ today. That's another matter though.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteWas the guy in the flat spin supposed to be flying in formation with you? Yes. But after he burned a few thousand feet in it, we (me and my buddy) figured to each his own, and flew the rest of the dive plan. So, wait, you saw a buddy of yours was spinning out of control on exit and you both decided to just merrily fly away? Seriously?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #7 May 22, 2011 If you are the guy with the yellow wingsuit, your chest altimeter is missing.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #8 May 22, 2011 Quote This was a great wingsuit flight me and my buddy Tom did today. I CHALLENGE you drama-zone people to point out ONE thing I did wrong on this jump. The jump was great, The deployment was awesome, and the pattern was good. Your legs are too close together. Spread them as wide as the fabric will allow and you'll get much more lift. "For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #9 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWas the guy in the flat spin supposed to be flying in formation with you? Yes. But after he burned a few thousand feet in it, we (me and my buddy) figured to each his own, and flew the rest of the dive plan. So, wait, you saw a buddy of yours was spinning out of control on exit and you both decided to just merrily fly away? Seriously? So what would you have us do? Pull for him? Oh, yeah that would have been impossible. So yes! We flew our merry way into the sunset and had good fun doing so. Seriously, Have YOU ever jumped a wingsuit?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #10 May 22, 2011 QuoteIf you are the guy with the yellow wingsuit, your chest altimeter is missing. I'm the guy wearing the camera, so everyone you see in the vid is not me.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 May 22, 2011 QuoteSeriously, Have YOU ever jumped a wingsuit? Yes. I've also never left a buddy in distress. Let's say next to worst case scenario happens, he blacks out from the spin and takes it all the way to Cypres fire height at which point the Cypres fires and his life is saved. He's still going to be off the DZ and probably pretty messed up. I know if that were me, I'd like a buddy there. And hey, YOU are the one that challenged us to find something wrong with the jump. Don't bitch just because I'm pointing it out.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #12 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteSeriously, Have YOU ever jumped a wingsuit? Yes. I've also never left a buddy in distress. Let's say next to worst case scenario happens, he blacks out from the spin and takes it all the way to Cypres fire height at which point the Cypres fires and his life is saved. He's still going to be off the DZ and probably pretty messed up. I know if that were me, I'd like a buddy there. And hey, YOU are the one that challenged us to find something wrong with the jump. Don't bitch just because I'm pointing it out. Ok then. Have you ever been in a wingsuit at freefall speeds with the capability of "helping" a fellow jumper? My guess is highly fucking unlikely. Get over your "high and mighty savior of all" complex and I think you MAY gain a bit of insight to the real skydiving world.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #13 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteIf you are the guy with the yellow wingsuit, your chest altimeter is missing. I'm the guy wearing the camera, so everyone you see in the vid is not me.Quote I only brought it up because he was wearing a head cam....and his alti is not attached to his alti bracket.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 May 22, 2011 QuoteOk then. Have you ever been in a wingsuit at freefall speeds with the capability of "helping" a fellow jumper? My guess is highly fucking unlikely. Get over your "high and mighty savior of all" complex and I think you MAY gain a bit of insight to the real skydiving world. I'm not saying you have to be an AFF instructor, get him stable and pull for him, but you could have at least followed him down. I'm fairly certain that with the "real skydiving world" skills you posses, you could have at least done that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #15 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf you are the guy with the yellow wingsuit, your chest altimeter is missing. I'm the guy wearing the camera, so everyone you see in the vid is not me.Quote I only brought it up because he was wearing a head cam....and his alti is not attached to his alti bracket. Actually it is. Could be optical distortion, but the guy in the yellow/white suit has a mudflap mounted Galaxy, an Optima in his helmet and a Fly Sight GPS.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #16 May 22, 2011 I was giving a wingsuit rodeo, and the exit sucked and she eventually let go. I decided (instantly) to chase her into freefall for fun. Not flying any more , just falling to chase her. It's about impossible to catch, let alone "help" someone. She did go to a backfly and we kept eye contact. She knew I was chasing, but just couldn't catch up.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #17 May 22, 2011 QuoteI'm not saying you have to be an AFF instructor, get him stable and pull for him, but you could have at least followed him down. To what end? I think you should seriously talk with your fellow moderator (DSE) about this subject. Otherwise you're going to come off as an uninformed person blowing smoke here.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteI'm not saying you have to be an AFF instructor, get him stable and pull for him, but you could have at least followed him down. To what end? I think you should seriously talk with your fellow moderator (DSE) about this subject. Otherwise you're going to come off as an uninformed person blowing smoke here. I think you should speak to somebody about being a buddy and a team player.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #19 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm not saying you have to be an AFF instructor, get him stable and pull for him, but you could have at least followed him down. To what end? I think you should seriously talk with your fellow moderator (DSE) about this subject. Otherwise you're going to come off as an uninformed person blowing smoke here. I think you should speak to somebody about being a buddy and a team player. I think you should enter the world of reality.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 May 22, 2011 QuoteI think you should enter the world of reality. Whatever dude.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #21 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteI think you should enter the world of reality. Whatever dude. Thank you for making my point.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteSeriously, Have YOU ever jumped a wingsuit? Yes. I've also never left a buddy in distress. Let's say next to worst case scenario happens, he blacks out from the spin and takes it all the way to Cypres fire height at which point the Cypres fires and his life is saved. He's still going to be off the DZ and probably pretty messed up. I know if that were me, I'd like a buddy there. And hey, YOU are the one that challenged us to find something wrong with the jump. Don't bitch just because I'm pointing it out. Worst case ...what if the AAD didn't save him, he'd be out there for a very long time since no one saw where he 'went in'. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #23 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm not saying you have to be an AFF instructor, get him stable and pull for him, but you could have at least followed him down. To what end? I think you should seriously talk with your fellow moderator (DSE) about this subject. Otherwise you're going to come off as an uninformed person blowing smoke here. I think you should speak to somebody about being a buddy and a team player. Mike, not having been there, I'm gonna lean somewhat in the direction of Quade's thoughts. I can't watch the video/haven't seen it....but I wouldn't leave a buddy in distress if I see em' in a flat spin or other highly challenged situation. You're right, unless you're an unusually good WS pilot...you're not going to be able to do anything... but I've landed off with others when I could have made it back (on numerous occasions) so that I'm sure they're safe and not alone out somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #24 May 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'm not saying you have to be an AFF instructor, get him stable and pull for him, but you could have at least followed him down. To what end? I think you should seriously talk with your fellow moderator (DSE) about this subject. Otherwise you're going to come off as an uninformed person blowing smoke here. I think you should speak to somebody about being a buddy and a team player. I think you should enter the world of reality. I make no secret of what I think of quades posts, but in this case he's right, i would not let anyone go in distress like that, i would either follow or make sure someone followed the person. Not to DO anything but to be there on the ground with them if needs be.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #25 May 22, 2011 i also have a question, no not the excess line again. What height were you at when you decided to release your brakes and do a control ability check on your canopy? Might be the camera, but it looked a lot lower then I would expect.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
