Hotness delusion syndrome

[airtwardo 7]

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I dunno, I seem to have more trouble chasing 20-year olds now than I did when I was 20.

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[turtlespeed 226]

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I dunno, I seem to have more trouble chasing 20-year olds now than I did when I was 20.

Ya Think?!

That stupid walker trips him up every time

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[Southern_Man 0]

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That article explains a few things to me about a couple of average divorced guys I work with who are in their forties. They claim to be meeting women all the time (could be total BS) and I don't think either are anything special, except for maybe the Harleys and the mid life crises.

Not sure where all the guys go. Some die, some go to prison. That takes some guys out of the dating population. I also think some guys just take themselves out of the dating population entirely after divorce. I do not think I am anything special and had an extremely easy time meeting women after getting divorced at 38. The situation does (as Kallend says) actually get even better as you age. This is just about all due to higher death rate among males as they age. A single guy in a retirement community is a very desirable commodity.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[JohnMitchell 16]

Very true. When an in-law of mine, financially well off, healthy farmer in his very early eighties, became a widower, the widows at church nearly tackled each other lining up to court him.

I meet a lot of women, but being married to Vskydiver I don't really think they rate or rank me. I guess I was okay at getting dates when I was younger. I'm really good at asking V out now.

And yes, I think that earlier post by Squeak was right. We don't think too much about how we look. We think more about how THEY look.

Being a guy means it takes longer to get your car ready for a hot date than it does yourself.

[shah269 0]

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New Jersey: 93 females for every 100 males per US census.

Yeah I believe that. I'm sure the numbers are greatly better for your average guy if you were living in say NYC or Brooklyn.

Yet regarding the article, 40 isn't that old.
What gives? Where are these guys going?
Death? Prison? Go gay?
And do people really pull themselves off the market?
Pardon my naivety on the subject but I just can't seem to understand why this.

And does a guy become more desirable if he has very little baggage AKA kids?

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[Southern_Man 0]

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Yet regarding the article, 40 isn't that old.
What gives? Where are these guys going?
Death? Prison? Go gay?
And do people really pull themselves off the market?
Pardon my naivety on the subject but I just can't seem to understand why this.

And does a guy become more desirable if he has very little baggage AKA kids?

Guys, biologically, get removed from the reproductive pool for a variety of reasons but this is a big part of the reason the "natural" rate of human birth is 105 live male births to 100 live female births.

Yes, a lot of guys go to prison. A lot of guys die. A higher percentage of guys are gay then women according to most reputable studies. Guys suffer from a variety of genetic disorders at higher rates then women (not all genetic but I work with people w/ intellectual disabilities--studies indicated that males outnumber females in this population 2:1). By reproductive age the 105:100 number reference above has come more into line 1:1. From there the number of males continue to drop. Anecdotally I know some guys remove themselves from the dating population but I do not know how prominent that is or how many women do it as well.

As far as "without baggage (kids)", well, at a certain point most of the women in your dating pool becomes divorced women, most of whom have kids. Yup, there are women that won't date a guy w/ kids but if they have kids it is more likely that they appreicate and relate to somebody with some of the same experiences they have had. Women w/ kids definitely don't consider kids baggage, neither do guys w/ kids.

Besides, even though you haven't had kids you still apparently need an entire team of Sherpas to lug all your baggage around with you.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[Bolas 5]

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I dunno, I seem to have more trouble chasing 20-year olds now than I did when I was 20.

Ya Think?!

That stupid walker trips him up every time

Make your weakness your strength: use the walker to trip them too.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[shah269 0]

Never realized we dudes ages so badly!
Is there also the sociological premise that older guys can and do date younger women? As such as a guy gets older the potential accepted dating pool becomes bigger and bigger for it now not only includes women of his age and slightly older all the way down to say 21?

And as such suddenly women who are 40ish are now not only competing with women of the same age but also women who are significantly younger?

This is why I loved sociology, it's though experiments like this that I personally find very interesting.

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[david3 0]

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Never realized we dudes ages so badly!

Who is this "we"?

[Deisel 38]

And does a guy become more desirable if he has very little baggage AKA kids?

As far as "without baggage (kids)", well, at a certain point most of the women in your dating pool becomes divorced women, most of whom have kids. Yup, there are women that won't date a guy w/ kids but if they have kids it is more likely that they appreicate and relate to somebody with some of the same experiences they have had. Women w/ kids definitely don't consider kids baggage, neither do guys w/ kids.


I disagree! I'm 41, divirced, 3 kids living with the evil person I used to know. At this point I'm a hot item for alot of reasons. PM me and Ill forward the list But regarding the kids - I refuse to date a woman with kids. I love em but I do grown up things like skydive. And besides, Im trying to do bad things to their Mom which seems to bother them. BLUF is that there are way too many single women that dont have kids to pick from. And I usually have several to pick from. Yeah baby

The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all.

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I have to admit, over the past few months I have rethought my basic rule regarding not dating moms. I've actually gone on a few dates with some moms and I have to say....it's different.
I'm still not sure if it's my thing since I know for a fact I do not wish to have kids but as I look back I seem to better understand this article.

I hate to say it but from the looks of it many men who are divorced are saddled with child support. This in effect taxes their incomes to a level that perhaps prohibits their recovery from the divorce. As such maybe, and this is just a thought, perhaps not having kids just adds to the allure of an older guy?

Ladies, aside from the sausage fest that is your local DZ, per your experiences is there a shortage of available and stable men from say the ages of 35-45?

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[Deisel 38]

There have been studies on this. I dont have the data but what it shows is that the non custodial parent (usually the dad) comes out way ahead. Raising kids is a bitch and very expensive. But there are many, many opportunity costs that go unseen. Most single moms pay through the loss of all the things that are no longer an option for them. Working overtime with no notice - not an option. Promotions after all those late nights - not happenning.
So yeah, I pay a shit ton o money to support my kids. And whenever she needs more all she has to do is ask and I give it. Gladly. No questions asked. I look at it as the fee I pay for being able to jump all day, and late nights of whoring and drinking

The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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Make your weakness your strength: use the walker to trip them too.

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[Southern_Man 0]

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I disagree! I'm 41, divirced, 3 kids living with the evil person I used to know. At this point I'm a hot item for alot of reasons. PM me and Ill forward the list But regarding the kids - I refuse to date a woman with kids. I love em but I do grown up things like skydive. And besides, Im trying to do bad things to their Mom which seems to bother them. BLUF is that there are way too many single women that dont have kids to pick from. And I usually have several to pick from. Yeah baby

Well, I guess this is why it is hard to generalize. I've dated women both with and without kids. Doesn't make any difference to me. My only guidelines (guidelines, not rules because every situation is different) is that I wouldn't date anybody who wanted kids or more kids (been there done that) and I didn't want to be a father figure to anybody else's kids. That generally meant that I looked more favorably on dating a woman w/ kids if the kids were older and if the father was still and active part of their life.

That has worked out fine for me. The only challenge is that having kids sometimes causes schedule conflicts but that really hasn't been a big deal. I may have made other choices if I was a bit younger or I hadn't already had kids of my own.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"