sfzombie 3 #1 June 14, 2011 it's been a while since i did a military jump, but i was looking at the pics and saw a reserve with the handle on the top of the reserve. when did they change this? i distinctly remember it being on the jumper's right side, not something you're likely to forget after 7 years in an airborne unit.http://kitswv.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #2 June 14, 2011 Quoteit's been a while since i did a military jump, but i was looking at the pics and saw a reserve with the handle on the top of the reserve. when did they change this? i distinctly remember it being on the jumper's right side, not something you're likely to forget after 7 years in an airborne unit. Modern sport rigs have the reserve handle (usually) on the left side main lift web. Dont know the difference with military gear. I cant imagine the reserve handle being on top of the reserve unless it was an older belly mounted reserve.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #3 June 14, 2011 Quote Quote it's been a while since i did a military jump, but i was looking at the pics and saw a reserve with the handle on the top of the reserve. when did they change this? i distinctly remember it being on the jumper's right side, not something you're likely to forget after 7 years in an airborne unit. Modern sport rigs have the reserve handle (usually) on the left side main lift web. Dont know the difference with military gear. I cant imagine the reserve handle being on top of the reserve unless it was an older belly mounted reserve. Doesn't have to be an older military one, the new military ones have it there too. Military static line rigs are still using the T-10 H/C system. (well, now they're getting the T-11, which also has a belly mounted reserve) IIRC they switched over atleast 5-6 years ago in most units. I do think there are still some of the older side pull ones floating around (not to mention some of them without PC's apparently)"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 June 15, 2011 IIRC they switched over atleast 5-6 years ago in most units. I do think there are still some of the older side pull ones floating around (not to mention some of them without PC's apparently) Riddle me this riggerman~~If you don't/can't cutaway a static-lined round...is a pilot-chute in the reserve a good idea? ~If a round reserve is TSO'd with a pilot chute...can you pack it without one? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #5 June 15, 2011 Quote ~If you don't/can't cutaway a static-lined round...is a pilot-chute in the reserve a good idea? Shit man, I don't know! Not sure if I would want to 'throw' the reserve out, or have it pulled out. Quote ~If a round reserve is TSO'd with a pilot chute...can you pack it without one? If it's marked "PILOT CHUTE REMOVED, FOR INTENTIONAL JUMPING ONLY" I believe is the wording. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #6 June 15, 2011 Quote IIRC they switched over atleast 5-6 years ago in most units. I do think there are still some of the older side pull ones floating around (not to mention some of them without PC's apparently) Riddle me this riggerman~~If you don't/can't cutaway a static-lined round...is a pilot-chute in the reserve a good idea? Well, on jump #11, I had a AA bra-sized Mae West line-over. A no pilot chute reserve, but then again, no way to cut away. Spinning rather noticeably. Pull, and reach in, grab, and throw in the direction of the spin, pray, and then breathe a sigh of relief. Get down and then puke. All I can say is: It Worked.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #7 June 15, 2011 Center pull is nice on reserves. It's much more protected that side pulls, plus as you pull up with two hands you can cover your open capewells too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 June 15, 2011 It's much more protected that side pulls... I dunno 'bout that~ Ever fight your way into an 8 way with one? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 June 15, 2011 QuoteQuote ~If you don't/can't cutaway a static-lined round...is a pilot-chute in the reserve a good idea? Shit man, I don't know! Not sure if I would want to 'throw' the reserve out, or have it pulled out. Bzzzzt!! Go to the back of the line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #10 June 15, 2011 But military canopies in belly warts aren't TSO'd. Military contract. And I doubt they'd pass the opening speed test without a PC. But, I was trained to throw it down and out in the direction of the spin. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #11 June 15, 2011 Quote But military canopies in belly warts aren't TSO'd. Military contract. And I doubt they'd pass the opening speed test without a PC. But, I was trained to throw it down and out in the direction of the spin. However, the canopies in belly warts of military reenactors are TSO'd......and yeah I was trained to throw it into the spin, and 'shake the skirt'. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #12 June 15, 2011 Quote However, the canopies in belly warts of military reenactors are TSO'd... They don't have to be. Thought you woulda known that, old timer! BTW: Quote g. Removal of Pilot Chute. A certificated senior or master parachute rigger may remove the pilot chute from a front-mounted (e.g., chest-type) reserve parachute if the canopy does not use a diaper, bag, or other deployment device. When done, the parachute must be plainly marked, “PILOT CHUTE REMOVED. This parachute may be used for intentional jumping only.” I was close. Funny that it says on the parachute, not on the container... but hey, it's the FAA, guess they don't know that the parachute goes inside the container!Also, get this... military re-enactors doing combat demo jumps (exiting ~1000-1250') are actually in violation of the BSR's, so USPA can go after them if they're members."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #13 June 15, 2011 Quote Quote However, the canopies in belly warts of military reenactors are TSO'd... They don't have to be. Thought you woulda known that, old timer! ~~~Why is that? If they are not in the military and doing a demonstration jump out of a civilian aircraft...wouldn't it need to be an approved TSO'd system? I really don't know which is why I'm asking...~~~ BTW: Quote g. Removal of Pilot Chute. A certificated senior or master parachute rigger may remove the pilot chute from a front-mounted (e.g., chest-type) reserve parachute if the canopy does not use a diaper, bag, or other deployment device. When done, the parachute must be plainly marked, “PILOT CHUTE REMOVED. This parachute may be used for intentional jumping only.” I was close. ~~~hence my concern this is an actual scenario, the pilot chute is removed however the diaper is being utilized.~~~ Also, get this... military re-enactors doing combat demo jumps (exiting ~1000-1250') are actually in violation of the BSR's, so USPA can go after them if they're members. ~~~BSR's are not law, but merely recommendations...ask Red Bull.~~~ ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #14 June 15, 2011 Quote ~~~BSR's are not law, but merely recommendations...ask Red Bull.~~~ I know that, but if you're a USPA member, they can revoke your membership, licenses and ratings."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
