beezyshaw 0 #26 February 18, 2005 I just really don't quite know what to think... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #27 February 19, 2005 Does this mean that they're going to start giving out gutted 550 at Boogies?Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #28 February 19, 2005 Damn skippy! That's EXACTLY what we're going to do. Maybe attach some little advertising flag or something, explaining why we recommend these instead of the new-fangled crappy 3/4 tape that's hot-knifed and all. Excellent idea, Mr. Cooper. Now, while we're at it "DB", maybe you can dig up some of that mystery fortune and finance our new pull-up cord advertising promotion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #29 February 19, 2005 Man even with my +2.00 I don't think I could ever read em, kids could though.......Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #30 February 19, 2005 QuoteDamn skippy! That's EXACTLY what we're going to do. Maybe attach some little advertising flag or something, explaining why we recommend these instead of the new-fangled crappy 3/4 tape that's hot-knifed and all. Excellent idea, Mr. Cooper. Now, while we're at it "DB", maybe you can dig up some of that mystery fortune and finance our new pull-up cord advertising promotion! Mark them with an arrow and a little sign that says "This end up". SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #31 February 19, 2005 Didn't we call them cheater cords back then as well? You can solve your problem real easy. Quit packing. Thats what I did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWGemini 0 #32 February 19, 2005 I tried the 550 cord yesterday, and it wasn't much easier than using the packing tool. I was talking with my riggers, and one joked that when he last packed my reserve, he replaced the closing loop as well, so it will be tight for a while. He says that he doesn't feel safe unless he has at least a three second pilot chute in tow on every jump, and the super tight closing loop helps to stage the openings. Seriously though, I wasn't able to get much more leverage with the 550 than the packing tool, but maybe I just need to find the right technique. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #33 February 19, 2005 QuoteI tried the 550 cord yesterday, and it wasn't much easier than using the packing tool. I was talking with my riggers, and one joked that when he last packed my reserve, he replaced the closing loop as well, so it will be tight for a while. He says that he doesn't feel safe unless he has at least a three second pilot chute in tow on every jump, and the super tight closing loop helps to stage the openings. I wouldn't expect it to be easier at all. To some degree, it is just that the packing tool seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. I wouldn't take much advice from a rigger that prefers a momentary in-tow on every jump. An opening that is staged in this manner will not be any softer, just delayed. Very bad idea.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #34 February 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteprobably the cypres closing loop material Yup, that's exactly what it is. My experience as a packer was that I could close rigs a LOT faster using a pack boy/packing tool then a "standard" pull-up chord, but then again, I never used any gutted 550...I'm going to have to try that. It also seemed that closing loops lasted longer using a packboy then a pull-up chord, even when done "right" pulling the materal under the pin to protect the loop and pulling slowly so to keep heat/friction down. *I* like using one, but that's just me.I'm in kinda late on this, but how about closing those Sigmas with their own little pull up cords? After just about cutting off a few digits trying to pull up on that, I started using a 3" piece of dowel rod to wrap the line around, to use as a handle. Ahhhh, much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #35 February 19, 2005 QuoteAfter just about cutting off a few digits trying to pull up on that, I started using a 3" piece of dowel rod to wrap the line around, to use as a handle No doubt, its rough trying to do it with only the chord, but a handy and cheap piece of stainless steel rod does the trick.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites firstime 0 #36 February 19, 2005 I wont bet you because I don't bet another man's game. I just bought one of those thingys you speak about ($19). What is a gutted 550?? PS you dont have answer right away as I am going to make meself a "little drink" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #37 February 19, 2005 Quote What is a gutted 550? The old round parachutes used nylon suspension lines that consisted of an outer core and about 7 smaller twisted strands inside the core. Tensile strength was 550 pounds, henceforth the name "550 cord." Pull the guts (strands) out, and you have "gutted 550 cord." Makes great closing loops and pull up cords. I think it's rated about 120 pounds with the guts out. Great string to take camping, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #38 February 19, 2005 Quote No doubt, its rough trying to do it with only the chord, but a handy and cheap piece of stainless steel rod does the trick. Do you use the steel rod on your packing tool, or carry one separate for the Sigmas? The dowel roads I just slip into the pocket on my jumpsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #39 February 19, 2005 I've used the packing tool rod, which works very well as well as a seperate stainless piece that my rigger had laying around and had us use when some asshat (not me) broke the packing tool rod that we used. If you want to make one yourself, its not hard if you know how to use a lathe and the metal is very very cheap.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MWGemini 0 #40 February 20, 2005 As I said in the post, it was just a joke. My riggers are very knowledgeable, and I trust them tremendously. I think the biggest issue with the difficulty I have in closing the container (which isn't that bad, really) is that my packing skills are still lacking, as I am still pretty new to the sport, and I am flying the largest canopy that Mirage says the container can hold. No safety issues here, but every little trick to make packing easier certainly helps. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #41 February 20, 2005 QuoteDidn't we call them cheater cords back then as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Back then only girls and sissies needed cheater cords. The rest of us just pulled that piece of shock cord through all the flaps by hand. That was around the time Saint Booth invented the 3-Ring, but before Saint Asquito invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt! Hah! Hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #42 February 20, 2005 Quotebut before Saint Asquito Asciutto invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt I am going by Hank's house today, I'll let him know he has achieved Saint Hood. Harrraaaarra.. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #43 February 20, 2005 Didn't we call them cheater cords back then as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Back then only girls and sissies needed cheater cords. The rest of us just pulled that piece of shock cord through all the flaps by hand. That was around the time Saint Booth invented the 3-Ring, but before Saint Asquito invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt! Hah! Hah! *** Ok........now you started it...Back then I was Maybe an early teen Some of us aren't as privilaged to be around when dirt was invented. Ha ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #44 February 20, 2005 Ohhh not that I am calling you God or anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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AggieDave 6 #35 February 19, 2005 QuoteAfter just about cutting off a few digits trying to pull up on that, I started using a 3" piece of dowel rod to wrap the line around, to use as a handle No doubt, its rough trying to do it with only the chord, but a handy and cheap piece of stainless steel rod does the trick.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #36 February 19, 2005 I wont bet you because I don't bet another man's game. I just bought one of those thingys you speak about ($19). What is a gutted 550?? PS you dont have answer right away as I am going to make meself a "little drink" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #37 February 19, 2005 Quote What is a gutted 550? The old round parachutes used nylon suspension lines that consisted of an outer core and about 7 smaller twisted strands inside the core. Tensile strength was 550 pounds, henceforth the name "550 cord." Pull the guts (strands) out, and you have "gutted 550 cord." Makes great closing loops and pull up cords. I think it's rated about 120 pounds with the guts out. Great string to take camping, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #38 February 19, 2005 Quote No doubt, its rough trying to do it with only the chord, but a handy and cheap piece of stainless steel rod does the trick. Do you use the steel rod on your packing tool, or carry one separate for the Sigmas? The dowel roads I just slip into the pocket on my jumpsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #39 February 19, 2005 I've used the packing tool rod, which works very well as well as a seperate stainless piece that my rigger had laying around and had us use when some asshat (not me) broke the packing tool rod that we used. If you want to make one yourself, its not hard if you know how to use a lathe and the metal is very very cheap.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWGemini 0 #40 February 20, 2005 As I said in the post, it was just a joke. My riggers are very knowledgeable, and I trust them tremendously. I think the biggest issue with the difficulty I have in closing the container (which isn't that bad, really) is that my packing skills are still lacking, as I am still pretty new to the sport, and I am flying the largest canopy that Mirage says the container can hold. No safety issues here, but every little trick to make packing easier certainly helps. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #41 February 20, 2005 QuoteDidn't we call them cheater cords back then as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Back then only girls and sissies needed cheater cords. The rest of us just pulled that piece of shock cord through all the flaps by hand. That was around the time Saint Booth invented the 3-Ring, but before Saint Asquito invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt! Hah! Hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #42 February 20, 2005 Quotebut before Saint Asquito Asciutto invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt I am going by Hank's house today, I'll let him know he has achieved Saint Hood. Harrraaaarra.. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #43 February 20, 2005 Didn't we call them cheater cords back then as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Back then only girls and sissies needed cheater cords. The rest of us just pulled that piece of shock cord through all the flaps by hand. That was around the time Saint Booth invented the 3-Ring, but before Saint Asquito invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt! Hah! Hah! *** Ok........now you started it...Back then I was Maybe an early teen Some of us aren't as privilaged to be around when dirt was invented. Ha ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #44 February 20, 2005 Ohhh not that I am calling you God or anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mjosparky 4 #42 February 20, 2005 Quotebut before Saint Asquito Asciutto invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt I am going by Hank's house today, I'll let him know he has achieved Saint Hood. Harrraaaarra.. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #43 February 20, 2005 Didn't we call them cheater cords back then as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Back then only girls and sissies needed cheater cords. The rest of us just pulled that piece of shock cord through all the flaps by hand. That was around the time Saint Booth invented the 3-Ring, but before Saint Asquito invented the curved pin and long before God invented dirt! Hah! Hah! *** Ok........now you started it...Back then I was Maybe an early teen Some of us aren't as privilaged to be around when dirt was invented. Ha ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #44 February 20, 2005 Ohhh not that I am calling you God or anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
