Correct brake line routing

[beezyshaw 0]

I get our demo canopies back all the time with mis-routed brake lines. So it is apparant to me that many jumpers don't know how to properly route and set deployment brakes. It's really very simple, but maybe somewhere in learning to pack this step is either not taught, not emphasized, or taught incorrectly. Put very simply, route the "loop" to one side of the toggle and the "line" to the other side of the toggle. By "loop" I mean the section of the control line below the brake setting, and by "line" I mean the section of control line above the brake setting. It amazes me how many people route the "line" under the top of the toggle and on the same side of the toggle that the "loop" is going. I'm attaching a couple of photos. In the photos I haven't stowed the "loop" for clarification; be sure to stow this excess control line according to your own main risers' recommended method.

[BETO74 0]

Is it just my impression that the toggle is not passing thru the break line loop on the first picture that will really cause problems uhhh

http://web.mac.com/ac057a/iWeb/AC057A/H0M3.html

[beezyshaw 0]

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...my impression that the toggle is not passing thru the break line loop on the first picture...

say what?

[blitzkrieg 0]

looks good to me, Beezy.

great post, if people are really doing that wrong... yikes!

[mnealtx 0]

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...my impression that the toggle is not passing thru the break line loop on the first picture...

say what?

In the first pic, it looks like the cat's eye is just laying across the toggle... positioning trick

Mike
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[AndyMan 7]

In all honesty, in the 5 years I've been hanging around, this is the first I've ever heard of this issue. I think I do that anyways, though.

Why is it important?

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[RTB 0]

I understand that you "correct" way gives a neater result but I don't see any apparent danger with the "wrong" way.
Why do you call it mis-routed? Is it not more of a different people- different style thing?

[beezyshaw 0]

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I understand that you "correct" way gives a neater result but I don't see any apparent danger with the "wrong" way.
Why do you call it mis-routed? Is it not more of a different people- different style thing?

When brakes are set in the manner I refer to as the "correct" way, there is less stress on the control line because everything is left in the orientation it was intended for. It may be hard to visualize, but the "incorrect" way causes the "loop" to be bent against the stiching that forms the cats-eye. Also, depending on the way the top of the toggle is stowed, there can be slight pull against this stow material during deployment; again, maybe a little hard to visualize. I also believe that the more clean routing of what I refer to as the "correct" way makes for the easiest brake release and causes less wear on the line as the brake is released. I'll admit that it's not that it doesn't work to do it the other way, it's just that it's cleaner and the way it was designed to work to do it right. It's sort of like this...your slider will work ok if it's put on with the reinforcing tape facing the jumper, but the "correct" way to install a slider is for the tape to face the canopy.

[meandean 0]

ok, in your opinion, is it better to set the "loop" to the inside of the risers, or the outside of the risers?
By "loop" I mean the section of the control line below the brake setting,

[beezyshaw 0]

Unless the method of stowing the "loop" requires otherwise, I put the "loop" to the outside and the "line" to the inside. That way, the "loop" is in the bottom of the container, instead of facing up when you lay the risers in. Again, probably more theory than anything else, but it seems logical to do it that way.

[RedassSkychic 0]

I've seen people do this alot as a packer and I've always just corrected it.. just this weekend I was trying to come up with a possible bad scenario for doing it the "incorrect" way. thanks for clearing up the issue here.

Morgan

[mjosparky 4]

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I also believe that the more clean routing of what I refer to as the "correct" way makes for the easiest brake release and causes less wear on the line as the brake is released. I'll admit that it's not that it doesn't work to do it the other way, it's just that it's cleaner and the way it was designed to work to do it right

It is cleaner and when you do release the brakes there is less chance that the brake line will "foul" on itself.

Sparky

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[grega 0]

that's one point for doing so, other point for doing the same is that the brake lines are 2cm more in the middle of the lines. Meaning 2cm further away from line-over...

"George just lucky i guess!"

[Remster 30]

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Unless the method of stowing the "loop" requires otherwise, I put the "loop" to the outside and the "line" to the inside. That way, the "loop" is in the bottom of the container, instead of facing up when you lay the risers in. Again, probably more theory than anything else, but it seems logical to do it that way.

So that would be the opposite direction then in your "correct" pic , right?

Thats what I like to do also...

Remster

[beezyshaw 0]

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So that would be the opposite direction then in your "correct" pic , right?

No, that picture is of the left riser, so the line is to the inside and the loop to the outside.

[Remster 30]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh... I just realised you are showing the front and back risers on the left... but still, if its the left riser, the loop is on the inside .. I think???? lol

Remster

[beezyshaw 0]

OK, yes it is a right riser! Hey, I'm left handed and if you know anything about left handed people our brains work backwards sometimes! Really LOL!!

I'm really not that stupid, really. Just left-handed. I feel like an idiot. I posted this nice, informative thread and don't even know my left from my right!!