normiss 871 #26 July 14, 2011 Again, you'd be incorrect. ETA: AMF started the Evolution project (as well as the Nova motor IIRC). While they clearly should have done more to protect the patent and copyrights to the motor, it is one of if not THE best motor Harley ever produced. Better then the Twin Cam for that matter. They are still sorting out the TC and it's been about 13 years and they are STILL running hot! I believe AMF also started the FXR line. Now I'm going to have to read some more again. I need a refresher! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #27 July 14, 2011 I cleaned the sink when I was finished in there. Note to self> deep sink in garage shop project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #28 July 14, 2011 QuoteAgain, you'd be incorrect. ETA: AMF started the Evolution project (as well as the Nova motor IIRC). While they clearly should have done more to protect the patent and copyrights to the motor, it is one of if not THE best motor Harley ever produced. Better then the Twin Cam for that matter. They are still sorting out the TC and it's been about 13 years and they are STILL running hot! I believe AMF also started the FXR line. Now I'm going to have to read some more again. I need a refresher! You would be incorrect. I don't care what they ultimately developed (I have an evo and love it), they upped production and quality control went down. Brand new bike leaked right from the factory among other problems and there was no stopping those leaks. That reputation is what leads people to believe they are high maintenance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 July 14, 2011 Quote Post a pic of the work bike.... It was in parachutist a couple of months ago.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #30 July 14, 2011 Quote Quote All the equipment works just as well in the rain, yes even the radar and the LIDAR and yes it is just as accurate. Being no expert on radars, but having a bit of knowledge on radio waves... Doesn't the rain effect the LIDAR by scattering the beam resulting in a lower reflected power? Also, doesn't the RADAR (running Ka or K band) have a significant rain fade at a large distance? The short answer is that there is some effect, but it doesn't hurt the accuracy of the speeds shown, it just makes the device work harder to return a speed. Besides, a radar or lidar is a tool to verify a visual speed evaluation. If it is safe enough to ride, then I can accurately and effectively run my speed measuring devices.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #31 July 14, 2011 Quote I was quite surprised to walk into the Kitchen yesterday to find some of the parts on my rug! Well of course you put 'em on the rug. You wouldn't want the parts to get scratched on the tile floor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #32 July 14, 2011 There ARE easy fixes to weeping Evo motors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 586 #33 July 14, 2011 Quote I've just always gotten such a kick from the "Harleys require SOOO MUUUUCH WORK" crowd. They're wrong. Simply because we care enough to properly maintain them, modify them, customize and personalize them... Mine's in pieces now. Upgraded headlights - required removal of fairing. Upgrading fasteners to stainless, upgrading the handle bar bushings to poly, drill, tap, install grease fitting on heel/toe shifter shaft on inner primary, another 10k service, general tune-up. Just some quality personal time with the sled. And beer. For some reason your post made me think of Linux people that I know. They brag about how Linux never needs to be rebooted, because they spend 2 days carefully having to restart individual processesHD don't need maintenance, provided you rebuild them every 10k miles...BTW - the type of bikes I ride tend not to survive being dropped, so I have no idea how much maintenance they require in the longer temExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #34 July 14, 2011 Quote HD don't need maintenance, provided you rebuild them every 10k miles WTF did that come from??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 586 #35 July 14, 2011 Quote Quote HD don't need maintenance, provided you rebuild them every 10k miles WTF did that come from??? I was misquoting your post about it being in pieces...Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #36 July 14, 2011 Stop hating just because we have better weather.... oh...and think about making the PR Boogie next year! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #37 July 14, 2011 QuoteThere ARE easy fixes to weeping Evo motors. I'm not talking about evo motors. Evo motors are the factory finally getting the shovel right. You said “I've just always gotten such a kick from the "Harleys require SOOO MUUUUCH WORK" crowd. They're wrong.” I believe that reputation came from the years AMF owned the company. They pushed production beyond the factories and quality controls capabilities. They were putting out a bad product. Now everyone likes to point to the exceptions of a bike they know about from that era that ran/runs great but as a whole they weren’t doing a good job. Now don’t get me wrong, if AMF hadn’t come along with their deep pockets Harley probably would have gone the way of the Dodo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #38 July 15, 2011 You speak of such a bitter pill....I think that's pretty accurate too. Pre-Evo, FACTORY motors can be a challenge. Or expensive to have the folks that have them dialed in set it up for you. Coming out of a total loss lubrication system may have taken HD awhile to come around on oiling - it is a key element of the twin cam motor stll. Who knew oiling could be manipulated the way they do. Although I DO want an S&S 103" shovel for my bobber project. Didn't AMF inherit the Shovel's problems? Funny how the infusion of cash AMF had too - you know they were giving money to HD to get it manufacturing money for the other AMF divisions that weren't doing well either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #39 July 15, 2011 QuoteWell of course you put 'em on the rug. You wouldn't want the parts to get scratched on the tile floor. Last night, he had parts in the Living Room. I'm putting my foot down if he starts bringing parts into the bedroom!She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #40 July 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteWell of course you put 'em on the rug. You wouldn't want the parts to get scratched on the tile floor. Last night, he had parts in the Living Room. I'm putting my foot down if he starts bringing parts into the bedroom! Watch out, I hear he keeps a piston in his pants."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #41 July 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteWell of course you put 'em on the rug. You wouldn't want the parts to get scratched on the tile floor. Last night, he had parts in the Living Room. I'm putting my foot down if he starts bringing parts into the bedroom! You say that like he's already taken them out. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #42 July 15, 2011 Duluth, GA PD motor division: "...the Motor Unit since it began in 1996 when the officers were riding the Harley Davidson Buells. Over the years, different motorcycles were used including the Harley Davidson Road King, the BMW R1110 and most currently, the 2005 Honda ST1300P police bikes."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayberry 0 #43 July 15, 2011 During Police Week the Victory rep from Lakeland was in town so we had him swing by the shop, a few of the Motor guys & I tried it out, they were impressed. http://victorypolicemotorcycles.com/ Check out the pics & videos. Very comfortable, handled well & also quick. Low maintenance costs too. I didn't like the turn signal set up & the fuel tank seemed as long as a football field when looking over it as compared to a Harley. I'm sure after a while you'd get used to it. Don Here's to friends! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #44 July 15, 2011 It's only 97hp, it would be like cutting my motor in half!It's also 1/3 the power of my neighbor across the street bike, but that has a custom turbo on it. 1300cc with so much boost you don't need but 25% to scare yourself at Talladega. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #45 July 15, 2011 Quote During Police Week the Victory rep from Lakeland was in town so we had him swing by the shop, a few of the Motor guys & I tried it out, they were impressed. http://victorypolicemotorcycles.com/ Check out the pics & videos. Very comfortable, handled well & also quick. Low maintenance costs too. I didn't like the turn signal set up & the fuel tank seemed as long as a football field when looking over it as compared to a Harley. I'm sure after a while you'd get used to it. My nephew tells me the Victory police bike has a plate under them that shields them from gunfire in the event of a fire fight, after you lay it down. Ryan's not a motor cop, he's the K-9 guy. One of his buddies is a motor cop. They say they like them over the Harley. Ryan's been looking for a Harley and Lenexa will be auctioning off theirs. Told him he should put in a bid. Bring it to me and I'll rebuild the engine (if needed) and put a killer paint job on her. His buddy has been trying to talk him into buying a Victory. Told him to tell Tim "in this family, we ride Harleys, not snowmobiles with wheels!"Personally, I think Victorys are just butt ugly and gaudy as hell."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #46 July 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteWell of course you put 'em on the rug. You wouldn't want the parts to get scratched on the tile floor. Last night, he had parts in the Living Room. I'm putting my foot down if he starts bringing parts into the bedroom! QuoteIf your wife has ever said, "Come move this transmission so I can take a bath." YOU might be a redneck. -- Jeff Foxworthy"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayberry 0 #47 July 15, 2011 Quote Personally, I think Victorys are just butt ugly and gaudy as hell. LOL Same here. A lot of common sense and practicality went into building the Police bike, and yes, there is a full length skid plate. I just still couldn't get past the looks. It is....well, I guess "not as bad" as say the Victory Vision. Good lord....talk about gaudy!! Don Here's to friends! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
