flyhy 0 #1 January 30, 2005 I lost my reserve handle of my reflex (made by fliteline) and been trying to contact trident who's making the viper but also selling parts for reflex rigs. Anyway, I'm not getting any reply on emails / phone calls. Does anyone know how to get hold of these guys? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #2 January 30, 2005 Here's the phone and fax numbers to Action Air Parachutes at the Skydance dropzone Tel:(530)753-2650 Fax:(530)753-8572My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #3 January 30, 2005 You can probably get another reflex for a little more than the cost of the handle. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #4 January 30, 2005 You can have Para-Gear make one up. Also Dave Dewolf makes them. You can contact him at paraloft@aol.com MEL Skyworks Parachute ServiceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #5 January 30, 2005 Paragear won't make ripcords anymore, that is what they told me this summer when I needed 3 made for mini systems, but jumpshack will make custom ripcords and for a fair price. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 January 30, 2005 QuoteYou can have Para-Gear make one up. Really? Para-Gear is making TSO'd componants now?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 January 30, 2005 go here http://www.tridenthc.com/fuzz.htm for replacemtent parts.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #8 January 30, 2005 *** Really? Para-Gear is making TSO'd componants now? -jp- Quote JP, No one ever said Para-Gear was making TSO'd equipment! Also,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. look at the freebags, reserve pilotchutes, and finally on the Reserve Slinks manufactured by PD. In my eyes ripcords should be included, but they never have to the best of my knowledge!?! The reserve toggles fall into the same area. Para-Gear used to make lots of ripcords for me. I do not know when they stopped. BS, MEL Skyworks Parachute ServiceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hookitt 1 #9 January 30, 2005 The phone numbers I listed for Action Air,will get you in contact with the owner of Trident. Action Air and Trident are on the same airport and owned by the same person. ray@actionair.com Also, 800 77 ACTIO(N) Hope that helpsMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #10 January 31, 2005 Para-Gear used to make lots of ripcords for me. I do not know when they stopped. (quote) I didn't know till I called them to make me 3 custom ripcords for older rigs like a TR-7 and other piggyback, They told me they didn't make them anymore, my guess was because of the capwell SB. But jumpshack hooked me up, even with out handles, just pins on cable saved me money and was very fast shipping to me. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #11 January 31, 2005 QuoteQuote Really? Para-Gear is making TSO'd componants now? -jp- Quote JP, No one ever said Para-Gear was making TSO'd equipment! Also,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. look at the freebags, reserve pilotchutes, and finally on the Reserve Slinks manufactured by PD. In my eyes ripcords should be included, but they never have to the best of my knowledge!?! The reserve toggles fall into the same area. Para-Gear used to make lots of ripcords for me. I do not know when they stopped. BS, MEL Skyworks Parachute Service This is a quote from AS-8015B: ***4.2.2 Primary Actuation Device/Ripcord: The following information shall be marked on the primary actuation device/ripcord: a. Part number, including dash number b. Manufacturer’s identification c. TSO-C23( ) d. Batch, serial number, or date of manufacture (month and year) Manufactures have been a little more than lax in doing this but it is required. It would have made CWo3-01 easier to deal with. They are a TSO's item. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #12 January 31, 2005 QuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggermick 7 #13 February 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required. JP's right, TSO'd ripcords must be marked as they are considered a major component. Reflex ripcords must have the part number ARC655-1 (2 or 3)D depending on the rig model, the month and year of mfg. Call Action Air for the correct model. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggermick 7 #14 February 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required. JP's right, TSO'd ripcords must be marked as they are considered a major component. Reflex ripcords must have the part number ARC655-1 (2 or 3)D depending on the rig model, the month and year of mfg. Call Action Air for the correct model. Mick. I forgot to add: ARC655-1 28", -2 27", -3 26". Lengths +/- 1/8". That's measured from the tip Of the pin to the tip of the ball/ shank swedge. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #15 February 1, 2005 Mick, I have never seen one with the TSO markings on them like the rest of the componets are labeled. As listed in the AS-???? code, all four of the required markings should be present to be a legal TSO'd item, especially item "c".That particular label is the one I have never seen on the ripcord. The rig that I helped TSO, we just listed the part # of the ripcord assembly (As you did) which looks like it never complied with the AS code. We treated the ripcord assembly like a consumable, alot like the guide rings (hardware) on the reserve risers. Now, it looks like that was wrong according to the AS code listed in a previous post. I was just looking at the various rigs that I own, most have a manufacture date or forging # only on them. I did find a s/n and part # on a Mirage soft handle reserve ripcord. That is two out of the four required markings. I guess my point is, A TSO'd item is supposed to be identified as such. If a Harness container is missing the actual label that says TSO23c(d) or what ever, and all the other required markings, the harness/container no longer has a valid TSO. I just went through this exact same problem with the seat belts in one of my airplanes. The labels where worn off (missing some info), therefore I had to buy new ones with the labels. It sounds like the PIA might want to sort through this one. Thanks for the info Mickey. It looks like Mirage and yourself are the closest ones to having all of the required markings.Blue ones, MEL Skyworks Parachute ServiceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #16 February 1, 2005 QuoteNow, it looks like that was wrong according to the AS code listed in a previous post. You are welcome for the "previous post". It has been required since TSO=23, as in before TSO-23BMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #17 February 1, 2005 Sparky, You are always on top of it! Good info...I never knew it was there! Thanks, Mel Skyworks Parachute serviceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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hookitt 1 #9 January 30, 2005 The phone numbers I listed for Action Air,will get you in contact with the owner of Trident. Action Air and Trident are on the same airport and owned by the same person. ray@actionair.com Also, 800 77 ACTIO(N) Hope that helpsMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #10 January 31, 2005 Para-Gear used to make lots of ripcords for me. I do not know when they stopped. (quote) I didn't know till I called them to make me 3 custom ripcords for older rigs like a TR-7 and other piggyback, They told me they didn't make them anymore, my guess was because of the capwell SB. But jumpshack hooked me up, even with out handles, just pins on cable saved me money and was very fast shipping to me. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #11 January 31, 2005 QuoteQuote Really? Para-Gear is making TSO'd componants now? -jp- Quote JP, No one ever said Para-Gear was making TSO'd equipment! Also,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. look at the freebags, reserve pilotchutes, and finally on the Reserve Slinks manufactured by PD. In my eyes ripcords should be included, but they never have to the best of my knowledge!?! The reserve toggles fall into the same area. Para-Gear used to make lots of ripcords for me. I do not know when they stopped. BS, MEL Skyworks Parachute Service This is a quote from AS-8015B: ***4.2.2 Primary Actuation Device/Ripcord: The following information shall be marked on the primary actuation device/ripcord: a. Part number, including dash number b. Manufacturer’s identification c. TSO-C23( ) d. Batch, serial number, or date of manufacture (month and year) Manufactures have been a little more than lax in doing this but it is required. It would have made CWo3-01 easier to deal with. They are a TSO's item. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #12 January 31, 2005 QuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggermick 7 #13 February 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required. JP's right, TSO'd ripcords must be marked as they are considered a major component. Reflex ripcords must have the part number ARC655-1 (2 or 3)D depending on the rig model, the month and year of mfg. Call Action Air for the correct model. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggermick 7 #14 February 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required. JP's right, TSO'd ripcords must be marked as they are considered a major component. Reflex ripcords must have the part number ARC655-1 (2 or 3)D depending on the rig model, the month and year of mfg. Call Action Air for the correct model. Mick. I forgot to add: ARC655-1 28", -2 27", -3 26". Lengths +/- 1/8". That's measured from the tip Of the pin to the tip of the ball/ shank swedge. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #15 February 1, 2005 Mick, I have never seen one with the TSO markings on them like the rest of the componets are labeled. As listed in the AS-???? code, all four of the required markings should be present to be a legal TSO'd item, especially item "c".That particular label is the one I have never seen on the ripcord. The rig that I helped TSO, we just listed the part # of the ripcord assembly (As you did) which looks like it never complied with the AS code. We treated the ripcord assembly like a consumable, alot like the guide rings (hardware) on the reserve risers. Now, it looks like that was wrong according to the AS code listed in a previous post. I was just looking at the various rigs that I own, most have a manufacture date or forging # only on them. I did find a s/n and part # on a Mirage soft handle reserve ripcord. That is two out of the four required markings. I guess my point is, A TSO'd item is supposed to be identified as such. If a Harness container is missing the actual label that says TSO23c(d) or what ever, and all the other required markings, the harness/container no longer has a valid TSO. I just went through this exact same problem with the seat belts in one of my airplanes. The labels where worn off (missing some info), therefore I had to buy new ones with the labels. It sounds like the PIA might want to sort through this one. Thanks for the info Mickey. It looks like Mirage and yourself are the closest ones to having all of the required markings.Blue ones, MEL Skyworks Parachute ServiceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #16 February 1, 2005 QuoteNow, it looks like that was wrong according to the AS code listed in a previous post. You are welcome for the "previous post". It has been required since TSO=23, as in before TSO-23BMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #17 February 1, 2005 Sparky, You are always on top of it! Good info...I never knew it was there! Thanks, Mel Skyworks Parachute serviceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
diablopilot 2 #12 January 31, 2005 QuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #13 February 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required. JP's right, TSO'd ripcords must be marked as they are considered a major component. Reflex ripcords must have the part number ARC655-1 (2 or 3)D depending on the rig model, the month and year of mfg. Call Action Air for the correct model. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #14 February 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteAlso,Have you ever seen a TSO # or TSO label on a ripcord assembly. A ripcord is best bought from the manufacturer, but when they are not available, you can replace it with a "like componet". Not true. It is a TSO'd item, I have seen some manufacturers that do put serial numbers on the ripcords. Mirage is one of them. Quote Anything TSO'd is required to have an ID # of some sort on it. Just because it isn't there on some doesn't mean it's not required. JP's right, TSO'd ripcords must be marked as they are considered a major component. Reflex ripcords must have the part number ARC655-1 (2 or 3)D depending on the rig model, the month and year of mfg. Call Action Air for the correct model. Mick. I forgot to add: ARC655-1 28", -2 27", -3 26". Lengths +/- 1/8". That's measured from the tip Of the pin to the tip of the ball/ shank swedge. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #15 February 1, 2005 Mick, I have never seen one with the TSO markings on them like the rest of the componets are labeled. As listed in the AS-???? code, all four of the required markings should be present to be a legal TSO'd item, especially item "c".That particular label is the one I have never seen on the ripcord. The rig that I helped TSO, we just listed the part # of the ripcord assembly (As you did) which looks like it never complied with the AS code. We treated the ripcord assembly like a consumable, alot like the guide rings (hardware) on the reserve risers. Now, it looks like that was wrong according to the AS code listed in a previous post. I was just looking at the various rigs that I own, most have a manufacture date or forging # only on them. I did find a s/n and part # on a Mirage soft handle reserve ripcord. That is two out of the four required markings. I guess my point is, A TSO'd item is supposed to be identified as such. If a Harness container is missing the actual label that says TSO23c(d) or what ever, and all the other required markings, the harness/container no longer has a valid TSO. I just went through this exact same problem with the seat belts in one of my airplanes. The labels where worn off (missing some info), therefore I had to buy new ones with the labels. It sounds like the PIA might want to sort through this one. Thanks for the info Mickey. It looks like Mirage and yourself are the closest ones to having all of the required markings.Blue ones, MEL Skyworks Parachute ServiceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #16 February 1, 2005 QuoteNow, it looks like that was wrong according to the AS code listed in a previous post. You are welcome for the "previous post". It has been required since TSO=23, as in before TSO-23BMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #17 February 1, 2005 Sparky, You are always on top of it! Good info...I never knew it was there! Thanks, Mel Skyworks Parachute serviceSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
