PiLFy 3 #51 October 4, 2011 Quote Quote Synthetic oil is $6-$7 per quart. I do not know what viscosity the Boxster should use, but my 911 uses 0W-50 and I pay at least double the price you are quoting for synthetic 0W-50. My Toyota uses 0-20W synthetic @around $6-$8 (depending on where & when you buy). Zero to fifty is a big spread. Maybe that's why it costs more? Or, is there a cute lil Porsche on the label ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #52 October 4, 2011 No no that's the BMW oil. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #53 October 4, 2011 Here Shah: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Fluids-and-Chemicals/Engine-Oil/_/N-26qq I believe this is the viscosity your car takes. I googled that just for kicks. I'm not saying to buy it in single quarts as it's more expensive that way. Even so, you can see a price range of $6-$8... If you're paying more? You're getting hosed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #54 October 4, 2011 I've tried almost all the oils out there and the only one that didn't go black in 1k miles due to the how hot the 1.8T runs ils Elf which is spendy. But the car runs like a top.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #55 October 4, 2011 QuoteI've tried almost all the oils out there and the only one that didn't go black in 1k miles due to the how hot the 1.8T runs ils Elf which is spendy. But the car runs like a top. You mean like this: http://www.pap-parts.com/products.asp?dept=4150 $7.50 a quart, retail. Come on, Shah(?). It took me far longer to type this, than to find that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #56 October 4, 2011 QuoteOK, I'll ask. What does FIFY mean? HERE 2, 3 and 4 give you the answer."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #57 October 4, 2011 QuoteOr, is there a cute lil Porsche on the label No no cute Porsche labels. More like a "Mobile 1" label. You can slam Porsche all you want for what you think the company is. All I know is last Friday at my local race track, my 14 year old 911 (which costs less than a brand new SUV) passed three $200k Ferraris on the track. My car may not be the fastest car in a straight line, but it is definitely not slow in the corners. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #58 October 4, 2011 No need to get huffy, Canookie. Apples & Oranges, the street isn't the track. I'm glad you got to kick a little Ferrari tail. I haven't been on a track all season. I miss it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #59 October 4, 2011 Thanks, Joe. I can't keep up w/all the slang you kids use... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #60 October 4, 2011 My ex had a boxster...I wouldn't be particularly interested in driving it in the snow, or paying someone to maintain it while cash is tight, or maintaining it myself. Fun car, but it's designed to be a toy, whereas it sounds like you needs something a bit more practical. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #61 October 4, 2011 QuoteMy ex had a boxster...I wouldn't be particularly interested in driving it in the snow, or paying someone to maintain it while cash is tight, or maintaining it myself. Fun car, but it's designed to be a toy, whereas it sounds like you needs something a bit more practical. Blues, Dave Dave, Thank you I agree 100%. I'm going to be polite and stop over at the dealer and thank him for the time on the phone but that I really do need a 2 door or 4 door with a real trunk and a solid roof. I agree it should not be ones sole mode of transport.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #62 October 5, 2011 Quote***For example, 4 all season french tires on a set of 17in rims...$900 4 set of all season tires for the Boxter s about $1200 Only difference is that the VW gets about 45k miles while the Boxter may get 30k miles or so. so that's 3 sets of Boxy tyres to 2 VW, yeah not $$ difference there, only $3600 to $1800.. Like I said previously, you're not serious about getting your shit together. and reducing your "OH SO WORRYING DEBT" which in turn means you're not serious about skydiving. you're just toooling aboutYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #63 October 5, 2011 Gorgeous car, drove well...smelled a bit off....a little look here and a little look there and well...the poor thing had a leaky roof. And though they brought down the price significantly it was just bad karma. Not to be not todayLife through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #64 October 5, 2011 Quote . I'm going to be polite and stop over at the dealer and thank him for the time on the phone but that I really do need a 2 door or 4 door with a real trunk and a solid roof. I agree it should not be ones sole mode of transport. lisa being blunt here (which is what I do best) Do not, I repeat, Do not go to the dealer! Call him on the phone, if you feel the need, but Do Not Go and "thank him" in person. For one thing, it's his job, he should be thanking you for considering anything. They hang around and wait for any action. You didn't take him away from anything in order to help you. They all want the next phone call or the next person who comes through the door. I'm not condoning rudeness (just the opposite), just understand that they aren't doing you a "favor" by facilitating a car buy. That's their job, and they should be respected for that just like you should be respected for yours, no more no less. However, if you show up, you are in their territory, and since a car purchase is extremely emotional, once they have you in their clutches, most people don't stand much of a chance (to say no, let alone negotiate a favorable deal). From what you have already posted (both here and on other threads) you realize that this car isn't in your long-term best interest, so maybe you should take a step away from the pen that signs a deal that will keep you tied even closer and longer to NJ If you do buy this, please post pictures and tell us how great it is , and what a chick magnet it is, and don't post us when the luster is gone, and how you sprung for vanity plates that say "ALBATROSS" eta: For your sake I'm glad it smelled of mildew. Did a quick search, and "Leaky Top Syndrome" (my words) seems to be a common problem.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #65 October 5, 2011 QuoteGorgeous car, drove well...smelled a bit off....a little look here and a little look there and well...the poor thing had a leaky roof. And though they brought down the price significantly it was just bad karma. Not to be not today I can't believe you are even considering borrowing money from those evil bankers. James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #66 October 5, 2011 Quote Gorgeous car, drove well...smelled a bit off....a little look here and a little look there and well...the poor thing had a leaky roof. And though they brought down the price significantly it was just bad karma. Not to be not today They usually do drive well. We are talking about one of the best automakers in the world who make their cars from years of experience of things they learned on the race tracks. But timing is everything when it comes to Porsche since it is not the most practical cars for "Daily Drivers" even though some people do use them as daily drivers. Three times in my life I wanted to buy a Porsche. Back in the early 1990s I wanted one, but could not necessarily afford one. Then again in the late 1990s I was in a better financial position and came close to buying one. But something in my head prevented me from pulling the trigger. Then one night in March of 2009 while bored at home listening to people on the internet whine about how the world was coming to an end I found myself looking at the used car market, then found this sweet 1997 993C2 was up for sale in my local market. I did not know how sweet this car was, even after owning it and driving it on the public roads until I did my 5th track day in the car. The first four track days I was still using my old tires and was not paying attention to my tire pressures. But at the start of the 2010 track day season, I had fresh rubber and a new attitude about constantly monitoring my tire pressures on the track and BINGO the car showed me what it was capable of doing. Since that time I have logged over 30 tracks days (not that many compared to the real racers), have replaced my front brakes four times, rear brakes only once (knock on wood) and am on my 3rd set of high performance tires. To make matters worse, I now I lust for a GT3 or better yet a GT3RS though the lack of funds in my bank account to buy a used GT3 does bring me back down to earth. This may not be your time to own a Porsche yet. Spend a few years getting your financial house in order. There will be other Porsches in the future and they will be more advanced than the Boxster you just test drove. Don't ever listen to the Porsche haters for they do NOT know what they are talking about. But as I said (at least in my opinion) Porsche is not the most practical car as a daily driver. When you are ready, you will buy one and you will have a big smile on your face (especially if you get to experience what the car can do on the race track). By the way check this http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/index.php website out if you do not know it. It is pretty much the place to go in North America to find out information about all the different cars Porsche produces. Oh and if you do visit the racing forum, be warned. There are real race car drivers who frequent the site. Say the wrong thing there and they will call you out. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #67 October 5, 2011 CanuckInUSA Yes when I say the car drove well...she sang. And thought she did have a slight water leak it was nothing major that could not easily be replaced or fixed at home with ordering of a new seal. I had taken a rather major emotional hit this past Sunday and I was not feeling well emotionally or psychically.And though the car did put a smile on my face from ear to ear.I felt as if my bones were made of led and just was not feeling well. Some would say that is the best time to buy a car like this. When you are feeling lower than the dirt on your feet do something exuberantly irrational to force you to raise your spirits. But I couldn't pull the trigger. Not ashamed to admit it.....but i lacked the guts. I know I'll regret it for months to come but....i want to start things on the right foot you know. Again thank you everyone for all of your help on this issue. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #68 October 5, 2011 QuoteI know I'll regret it for months to come but.... No, you might regret the idea of it in the months to come, but with no experience owning or driving a Porche as your primary car, you don't really know what you were in for. A Porche is engineered for one thing, and that's going fast. Not going for groceries, driving across the country, or being cost-effective or easy to maintain. When it comes to their design goal, they hit the mark like a grand slam in the world series. There's a saying, and I'm not sure where it came from, or what it originally applied to, but it's fairly close to universal when it comes to vehicles of any kind. The saying is, 'Fast, easy, or cheap, pick any two'. You want a fast car for cheap? No problem, plan on being on your back working on the thing every weekend to keep it going. Want a fast car that's easy? No problem, pre-print your checks with the name of the local Porche dealership, and plan on being there once a month. Want a car that's cheap and easy? Simple, it's called a Honda, and they're slow. How about you give yourself a little credit, and don't write it off to feeling down and being 'gutless', write if off to being smart enough to see through the 'Porche-colored glasses' you were looking through, and listening to some good sense. BTW, two of the 'best' cars I ever drove were a Porche, and any of the last three generation of M3. So if you're looking at a manual shift 3-series, you're not that far off from an M3 or a Boxter, and for the driving you can do on public roads, a 3 series will be just about as much as you need. Once you get to the point that a 3 series can't keep up, you run the risk of losing your licesne and having your car impounded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #69 October 5, 2011 QuoteBut I couldn't pull the trigger. Not ashamed to admit it.....but i lacked the guts. I know I'll regret it for months to come but Do NOT dwell on the regrets. Think of this as "just not the right time". As I said it took me three attempts before I pulled the trigger. Porsche will be there for you in the future if you want to venture down that slippery slope. Plus in the future you will get more bang for your buck. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #70 October 5, 2011 Hmmm I will try not to spam this thread too much more. But what can I say, I consume the German koolaid. Porsche is not the most practical car for every day use. It is a car for dreamers. Stay away from the Porsche commercials because they actually do an excellent job in allowing the dreamer in you to come out. Here is just a sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09qQ_NM6QA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sWPHKU1XZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDhF__PI2vA Just make sure that when the time is right to head down the slippery slope you are doing it for all the right reasons. Don't buy a Porsche because of vanity reasons. There are more exotic looking cars than a 911 and if you drive the 911 wrong, it will bite you hard in the rear end in lift-off over steer scenarios. No if you do venture down the slippery slope do it for the right reasons. Do it for yourself and not what others think. Not all Porsche owners track their cars, but if ever really do want to experience what makes a 911 a 911, you need to do it at the track. "Porsche, there is no substitute" - Tom Cruise from the movie Risky Business. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #71 October 5, 2011 Quote CanuckInUSA Yes when I say the car drove well...she sang. And thought she did have a slight water leak it was nothing major that could not easily be replaced or fixed at home with ordering of a new seal. I had taken a rather major emotional hit this past Sunday and I was not feeling well emotionally or psychically.And though the car did put a smile on my face from ear to ear.I felt as if my bones were made of led and just was not feeling well. Some would say that is the best time to buy a car like this. When you are feeling lower than the dirt on your feet do something exuberantly irrational to force you to raise your spirits. But I couldn't pull the trigger. Not ashamed to admit it.....but i lacked the guts. I know I'll regret it for months to come but....i want to start things on the right foot you know. Again thank you everyone for all of your help on this issue. No, it's the worst time to do something like that. There's a big difference between doing something "exuberantly irrational" and blowing that kind of cash on an impractical toy. And BTW, you talked about a set of tires and their cost. You seem to ignore the simple fact that with that kind of car as a daily driver you will need 2 sets. All seasons won't cut it in either. Not good enough to be any kind of fun in summer, and not good enough to be safe in winter. High performance in summer and Blizzaks (or equivalent) in winter. It's really not an option."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #72 October 5, 2011 Quote Hmmm I will try not to spam this thread too much more. But what can I say, I consume the German koolaid. Porsche is not the most practical car for every day use. It is a car for dreamers. Stay away from the Porsche commercials because they actually do an excellent job in allowing the dreamer in you to come out. Here is just a sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09qQ_NM6QA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sWPHKU1XZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDhF__PI2vA Just make sure that when the time is right to head down the slippery slope you are doing it for all the right reasons. Don't buy a Porsche because of vanity reasons. There are more exotic looking cars than a 911 and if you drive the 911 wrong, it will bite you hard in the rear end in lift-off over steer scenarios. No if you do venture down the slippery slope do it for the right reasons. Do it for yourself and not what others think. Not all Porsche owners track their cars, but if ever really do want to experience what makes a 911 a 911, you need to do it at the track. "Porsche, there is no substitute" - Tom Cruise from the movie Risky Business. Uh.. plenty of substitutes for a 912...914...and the 924 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #73 October 6, 2011 Quote Uh.. plenty of substitutes for a 912...914...and the 924 Yes there were a few hiccups along the way and lessons were learned. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #74 October 6, 2011 QuoteI've tried almost all the oils out there and the only one that didn't go black in 1k miles due to the how hot the 1.8T runs ils Elf which is spendy. But the car runs like a top. It is your money to waste. My 1.8T runs Rotella T6 full synthetic just fine. 150K miles and going strong. 21 bucks at Walmart. The thing about going black is absolute nonsense! If you want a real test send it to a lab like blackstone to see the characteristics after a few k miles. If you are changing every 5k and using the larger european filters any sythetic is going to be just fine!"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #75 October 6, 2011 Quote Quote Uh.. plenty of substitutes for a 912...914...and the 924 Yes there were a few hiccups along the way and lessons were learned. WTF are they learning from the Cayenne??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
