shropshire 0 #1 September 3, 2011 I've just started (after reading Born to Run) - Haven't don much - a couple of miles yesterday (in the meadow) and covered 7 today (running and walking) on tarmac. I've bought some thin sole runners (plimsolls/daps) for running on dodgy surfaces and for winter but WONT EVER wear Vibram toes shoes (look gay and are putting more money into the shoe manufactures tills that they don't deserve!!) - also saw some 'Gloves' from Merrell and they're chuffing expensive too (£85!!! WTF?)- more corporate greed/band-waggoning!! I'll let you know how I get on over the next few months.... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 September 3, 2011 Yes. Vibram FiveFingers KSO. The proper way to run, as opposed to the past 30 years of the clueless running shoe industry teaching a generation of people that heel-strikes are how to run. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 September 3, 2011 I hope your arches survive, especially at <cough> your age. If God wanted people to run barefoot, She never would have invented Dr. Scholl's arch supports. It might behoove you visit a podiatrist for a preventive/advisory consult. Some people with higher arches, or other conditions like excessive pronation or supination, don't do all that well without active support, especially once they hit middle age. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 September 3, 2011 Back in the 20th century I use to run a lot, I knew a few people that advocated running barefoot...they were easy to pick out, always had bruised heels, broken toes and shin splints. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #5 September 3, 2011 Quote Yes. Vibram FiveFingers KSO. The proper way to run, as opposed to the past 30 years of the clueless running shoe industry teaching a generation of people that heel-strikes are how to run. When my wife ran the Jerusalem marathon a few months back we bumped into a friend wearing those..."Run on your toes, breathe through your nose" was his mantra for the day. He's STILL not walking right! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 September 3, 2011 Quote ... shin splints. Bullshit. I started running with track shoes with paper thin soles. I never had shin splints until I started using the thick, mushy soles. Since I've gone back to thin soles, I've had no further problem."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #7 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote ... shin splints. Bullshit. I started running with track shoes with paper thin soles. I never had shin splints until I started using the thick, mushy soles. Since I've gone back to thin soles, I've had no further problem. I've never had shin splints and always run on thick soles, I don't like real mushy footwear because they seem to lack stability which I notice over l o n g distances. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote ... shin splints. Bullshit. I started running with track shoes with paper thin soles. I never had shin splints until I started using the thick, mushy soles. Since I've gone back to thin soles, I've had no further problem. Nike 'invented' shin splints when they invented 'running' shoes I can't help laugh when I see all of the 'Running shoe' companies making 'barefoot' shoes now [rolls eyes] and still charging big money for them as well (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 September 3, 2011 Quote Back in the 20th century I use to run a lot, I knew a few people that advocated running barefoot...they were easy to pick out, always had bruised heels, broken toes and shin splints. They shouldn't have bruised heels if'n they run proper - damned dirty heel strikers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #10 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Back in the 20th century I use to run a lot, I knew a few people that advocated running barefoot...they were easy to pick out, always had bruised heels, broken toes and shin splints. They shouldn't have bruised heels if'n they run proper - damned dirty heel strikers We're just back from the left coast where we did some trail running...how the heck you gonna run downhill on your toes?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 September 3, 2011 backwards (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Back in the 20th century I use to run a lot, I knew a few people that advocated running barefoot...they were easy to pick out, always had bruised heels, broken toes and shin splints. They shouldn't have bruised heels if'n they run proper - damned dirty heel strikers We're just back from the left coast where we did some trail running...how the heck you gonna run downhill on your toes?! Just ignore me.. I'm new at this and just as bad as a 'reformed' smoker :-P (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #13 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote ... shin splints. Bullshit. I started running with track shoes with paper thin soles. I never had shin splints until I started using the thick, mushy soles. Since I've gone back to thin soles, I've had no further problem. Nike 'invented' shin splints when they invented 'running' shoes I can't help laugh when I see all of the 'Running shoe' companies making 'barefoot' shoes now [rolls eyes] and still charging big money for them as well Ahh, there's nothing quite like the strength of conviction and purity of purpose of a guy who's just read one book...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 September 3, 2011 Bwhaaaaaaaa gitBut a ton for a pair of shoe IS taking the piss. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #15 September 3, 2011 Quote But a ton for a pair of shoe IS taking the piss. 'Tis but mere pocket change! Be grateful you're not a cyclistDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote But a ton for a pair of shoe IS taking the piss. 'Tis but mere pocket change! Be grateful you're not a cyclist Kin hell (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Back in the 20th century I use to run a lot, I knew a few people that advocated running barefoot...they were easy to pick out, always had bruised heels, broken toes and shin splints. They shouldn't have bruised heels if'n they run proper - damned dirty heel strikers We're just back from the left coast where we did some trail running...how the heck you gonna run downhill on your toes?! Just ignore me.. I'm new at this and just as bad as a 'reformed' smoker :-P Ya wanker. You get it right, and then you tell people to ignore you. Your comment on Nike is more right on than you may imagine. I once bought a new pair of Nikes, when I had been running daily. In two weeks I had shin splints even though nothing else had changed. Close examination revealed the inner side of the sole was getting lower than the outer side, causing even more extreme pronation. i.e. the soft mushy sole was taking on a wedge shape with the narrow edge of the wedge toward the inner side of the foot."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #18 September 3, 2011 Quote Quote But a ton for a pair of shoe IS taking the piss. 'Tis but mere pocket change! Be grateful you're not a cyclist FOOK ME and you can't even walk about town in them properlyYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #19 September 3, 2011 After running 3 marathons and a bunch of half marathons, I ended up with runner's knee. http://www.time-to-run.com/injuries/thebig5/runnersknee.htm After going through physical therapy twice without much success, I decided to try natural (not barefoot) running. The principle is the same as decribed in Born to Run. Land with your feet underneath your hips, on the ball of your foot, and let the heel tap the ground and bounce back up. The general idea is that the heel strike encouraged by the built-up running shoes is harmful, regardless of the amount of padding in the shoe. By running naturally, you take that harmful heel strike out of the equation. I run in the New Balance Trail Minimus, but there are many options for natural running footwear. I do not run barefoot because the trails I do most of my training on are crushed gravel, with sharp stones. No way am I running barefoot on that. Here's a good review of the New Balance compared with another similar shoe by Merrell. http://www.irunfar.com/2011/02/merrell-trail-glove-vs-new-balance-minimus-trail-review.html If you decide to transition to natural running, do it slowly. I started the transition in June, and I'm up to 7 mile runs natural. If you do it too quickly, you run the risk of injury, particularly stress fractures in your feet, which are not used to the different stresses caused by natural running. You will also notice considerable soreness in your calfs in you do too much too soon. I plan to be 100% natural running by the start of the new year. There is lots of literature on the subject. The best I have found is: http://www.runblogger.com/2010/12/review-of-natural-running-by-danny.html Sorry if I got long-winded. Hope this info helps you and anyone else trying to find a healthier way to run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #20 September 4, 2011 http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/01/different-strokes/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 September 4, 2011 - thanks. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #22 September 4, 2011 Calves are tight this morning (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #23 September 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Back in the 20th century I use to run a lot, I knew a few people that advocated running barefoot...they were easy to pick out, always had bruised heels, broken toes and shin splints. They shouldn't have bruised heels if'n they run proper - damned dirty heel strikers We're just back from the left coast where we did some trail running...how the heck you gonna run downhill on your toes?! Just ignore me.. I'm new at this and just as bad as a 'reformed' smoker :-P the proper term is "born again non-smoker", you twat! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 September 4, 2011 yo scroat - what you doing in a 'Health Thread'? Must have just stumbled in aye? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divinfool 0 #25 September 4, 2011 I've done 3 marathons over 70 triathlons and an Ironman (more years ago than I will mention). Some of my graduate work was done in Exercise Physiology. IMHO five fingers are not for everyone. If everyone had perfect running form and foot plant, they would be great. I have super high arches and need orthotic inserts to correct my foot plant. If I ran in Five fingers I would have the worse case of Plantar fasciitis that would probably take 6 months to heal....but I have a friend that has done well over 30 Ultra-marathons in them and absolutely loves them.Fear is the thief of dreams..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
