bobsled92 0 #1 January 5, 2005 A question was asked of me and I need info from a Rigger. ***a good deal on a rig for a 5'10" person to be bought by a 5'2" person Would this require a Master rigger? What mods are needed? approx cost to do it_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 January 5, 2005 Another idea: for some of the rental gear at our DZ, we can put D-rings on the mainlift webbing, one on each side, with as much rings as needed to shorten the main lift web. Costs: just the hardware. I wouldn't want that for my own rig, I'd shorten the main lift webbing, but for rentals it made the rigs a lot safer for shorter people. There's even one girl at our DZ who has the rings on her own rig. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #3 January 5, 2005 Contact the manufacturer - your best/most economical option may be to send it straight back to them for a new harness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbain 0 #4 January 5, 2005 I am not a rigger! But I am 5'0" and I used to own (and jump) a Javelin with a 17" main lift web. I put almost 400 jumps on that rig without realizing the consequences until something went wrong and I couldn't reach my cutaway handle! I took it to a master rigger to look at and with the amount that it needed shortened he recommended sending to the manufacturer for a whole new harness. I thought that was too expensive to be worth it so I sold that rig and used the money towards getting custom fit gear. Just my personal experience but like I said I'm not a rigger so none of this may apply to your situation. Good luck. Christina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissay 0 #5 January 5, 2005 Quote I took it to a master rigger to look at and with the amount that it needed shortened he recommended sending to the manufacturer for a whole new harness. I thought that was too expensive to be worth it so I sold that rig and used the money towards getting custom fit gear. Maybe it depends on how much of the harness they are refitting (or maybe because you were getting a whole new harness), but my boyfriend sent his rig back to the manufacturer a couple of years ago and it cost him like $90.00 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 January 5, 2005 QuoteAnother idea: for some of the rental gear at our DZ, we can put D-rings on the mainlift webbing, one on each side, with as much rings as needed to shorten the main lift web. Costs: just the hardware. I wouldn't want that for my own rig, I'd shorten the main lift webbing, but for rentals it made the rigs a lot safer for shorter people. There's even one girl at our DZ who has the rings on her own rig. Could you explain that in more detail? I can't see how D-rings will shorten the main lift web. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 January 5, 2005 QuoteA question was asked of me and I need info from a Rigger. ***a good deal on a rig for a 5'10" person to be bought by a 5'2" person Would this require a Master rigger? What mods are needed? approx cost to do it Even if the rig was a gift, it would be better to find something that is closer to the right size. jmo SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #8 January 5, 2005 Huh, the copy link for posts doesn't show up in Firefox Anyway I explained this one before, here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=695647;search_string=ring%20main%20lift%20web;#695647 (hope this link works, else search for main lift web, crw, rings) ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #9 January 5, 2005 IMHO a rig as ill-fitting as this one could not be a great deal. If you PM me the details, I can see if I have something more suitable to swap out with her/you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #10 January 5, 2005 Oh hell, don't let a manufactor see that. That type of mod should only be done by a master rigger that has in writing from the manufactor that it is approved. I highly doubt any manufactor will like that. Part of the reason that the adjustable main lift webs were suspected of shearing off is that the loads were being transfred to the webbing at an angle rather then through the webbing. That mod is doing the same thing Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #11 January 5, 2005 Hmm true... At the time it applied to me, about 1 1/5 yr ago, the problem with the adjustable main lift webbing hadn't come to light yet (I think)... I personally doubt this mod can do much harm in the way we usually use it, ie on different rigs, and only every now and then. It's not on long enough to cause harm. I think. But I think I'll let my rigger do the thinking on this one So, don't try this at home, kids ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #12 January 5, 2005 Come to think of it, our CRW dogs that use a terts sometimes attach it via this same method. They've been doing that for years, although not that many people use a terts anymore and the better-equipped ones have the D-rings sewn on their webbing. Most of the CRW rigs that are for rent here are Invaders, no idea who made them, but these rigs most often have this mod... ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #13 January 5, 2005 Skip buying that rig. The harness is not the only thing different in a rig built for a person 5'2" and one built for someone 5'10" The yoke over the shoulder will be longer as well. Keep looking.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #14 January 5, 2005 Grant, call Dave DeWolf. I'm sure he'd give you the low down. In fact, he'll probably say what Hookitt said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #15 January 5, 2005 I called him. (Haven't seen him in awhile...>>jumping @ C-burg)_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #16 January 6, 2005 I had my master rigger (Cazer Paraloft) shorten the main lift web on my CRW rig by 2-1/4" since I bought the container off a guy who was 6'-0" tall. I'm 5'-6". Only master riggers or manufacturers can make physical changes to rigs, as far as I know."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #17 January 6, 2005 QuoteHuh, the copy link for posts doesn't show up in Firefox Anyway I explained this one before, here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=695647;search_string=ring%20main%20lift%20web;#695647 (hope this link works, else search for main lift web, crw, rings) Thanks for the info. Boy, does that look scary. But you say it works. Like Phree said, don't let the manufacture see it. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaTo 0 #18 January 9, 2005 QuoteThere's even one girl at our DZ who has the rings on her own rig. Guess you mean my rig... I am jumping this rig in this state for over 3 years now, with some 600 CRW jumps (so hard openings and loooong canopy rides = stress on the main lift) without any problems. Idea came from the master rigger at our DZ, and it is far much cheaper than buying a new rig. And I am more convident about it than doing any sort of tiggling on my mainlift itself.... By the way, my (Javelin-) rig has been checked on different (international)DZs, nobody ever made any remark on it. attached some photo's, the two rings are perfect for hooking yourself to the savety strap on the plane.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #19 January 9, 2005 QuoteI am jumping this rig in this state for over 3 years now, with some 600 CRW jumps And I've driven around over the speed limit for years now. Doesn't mean I won't get a ticket when caught. The way that puts load on the webbing and the potential for wear worries me.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaTo 0 #20 January 9, 2005 i thought i was adding usefull information, thanks for your stimulating answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 January 9, 2005 Don't take it so personal. I agree your information had value, I wished to put out a bit more information in the form of an opinion. I think you ought to re post your information.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UDSkyJunkie 0 #22 January 11, 2005 QuoteWould this require a Master rigger? What mods are needed? approx cost to do it I got a really got deal on a Vector that was built for someone 5' 10" to 6' 2"... I'm a whopping 5' 7". A mod was done on it that was similar to the "D-ring" idea posted earlier. Jumped that for about 200 jumps (2 seasons), but I kept my eye on the harness because I was concerned about wear. Then, when I had some spare cash, I sent it to the Relative Workshop and got the main lift web shortened for $100, plus about $50 in total shipping. For that price, it makes more sense to skip the mod and just get it re-sized. For the record, the harness showed no sign of wear, but 200 jumps isn't very many. Definately make sure, as some other people have mentioned, that the only sizing issue is the harness length before investing the money... the container could be too long, or the yoke to big, or any number of things; there is a big difference between 5' 10" and 5' 2"."Some people follow their dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
