JohnRich 4 #1 June 7, 2012 News:85 Mile Per Hour Speed Limit Seen on State Highway 130 "The Texas Department of Transportation said today a toll road being built from San Antonio to north of Austin could be the first road in the country to have a posted 85 mile per hour speed limit..."Full story: WOAI News Radio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #2 June 7, 2012 I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #3 June 7, 2012 I like it! My car gets its best gas milage at 80 mph. so I say bravo lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 June 7, 2012 I-10 is still, posted 80-mph. Daytime. I-20 is also 80-mph West of Odessa. I haven't been East of Odessa so I'm not sure about that stretch. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 June 7, 2012 QuoteI was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. Yeah, you're just creeping along out there. But it's kind of cool being on an interstate highway and seeing more tumbleweeds than you do other cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 June 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteI was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. Yeah, you're just creeping along out there. But it's kind of cool being on an interstate highway and seeing more tumbleweeds than you do other cars. Having made the drive from central Texas to Big Bend three times and from central Texas to SD Arizona and back three times, 85mph still feels slow out there! You could do 300mph and still be on the highway too long in that part of Texas! Where as most cops I've encountered will give you 8-10mph on the highway in Texas, I'll promise you that DPS will only give you 5mph with the new speed limit.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 June 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. Yeah, you're just creeping along out there. But it's kind of cool being on an interstate highway and seeing more tumbleweeds than you do other cars. Having made the drive from central Texas to Big Bend three times and from central Texas to SD Arizona and back three times, 85mph still feels slow out there! You could do 300mph and still be on the highway too long in that part of Texas! Where as most cops I've encountered will give you 8-10mph on the highway in Texas, I'll promise you that DPS will only give you 5mph with the new speed limit. Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #8 June 8, 2012 Quote Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). All well and good until some idiot in a car he/she cant handle wants to do the TON and collides with a family in a station wagonYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #9 June 8, 2012 QuoteQuote Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). I agree, Andy. Quote All well and good until some idiot in a car he/she cant handle wants to do the TON and collides with a family in a station wagon This could happen at virtually any highway speed.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #10 June 8, 2012 I don't know about actual German accident rates, but they've had many years to get used to the driving discipline and norms of behavior applicable to driving where there are lanes of traffic doing significantly different speeds. At least 85 mph would presumably be in easy enough to drive areas and it would be only a small change in existing behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #11 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). I agree, Andy. Quote All well and good until some idiot in a car he/she cant handle wants to do the TON and collides with a family in a station wagon This could happen at virtually any highway speed. yes it can but the likelihood of it occurring on an unrestricted speed road would be increased. 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill........How fast can i make this thing go.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #12 June 8, 2012 Quote You could do 300mph and still be on the highway too long in that part of Texas! Having driven that a few times, I agree. And the same goes for Northern NV."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #13 June 8, 2012 Quoteshould just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor) Speed is never the only factor. Even at 70mph many people don't have their cars setup properly. They rely on the car's tire sensors to tell them if the tires are too low, instead of making sure that the air pressure is correct. They don't keep up with the condition of their tires and having their suspension adjusted correctly. They overload their vehicles or have improperly sized wheels/tires for their vehicle's handling ability and characteristics. The list could go on and we haven't even started to figure in the human factors of distraction and fatigue, much less any other contributing factor. I like to go fast, I also hate driving that stretch of Texas, but that doesn't mean the significant increase in speed (compared to 70/75mph in the rest of the state) is just as safe. If you want some mind numbing posts, I can go into a lot of details regarding Northwestern's data for driver reaction times, vehicle stopping distance and time/distance analysis of the combined factors. Or I can give you an anecdotal account of the first time my wife and I went to Big Bend together (the second trip for me) and how the advanced drivers training I've been privileged enough to have received saved us from a very bad wreck involving high speed and two large deer. The point is next time I go to Big Bend I'll make full use of the increased speed limit, but I'm going to have to be extra vigilant, especially due to the other drivers on the road.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites theonlyski 8 #14 June 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteshould just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor) Speed is never the only factor. Even at 70mph many people don't have their cars setup properly. Like the guys I see daily driving 80mph with their spare doughnut on. I have taken a few courses in aggressive/tactical driving, that have gone pretty well into the dynamics of vehicle control and such. My truck has a rear sway bar, the tires are pumped a bit higher than the door panel states... It's amazing how little people can care about something that could save countless lives like knowing how to drive it, understanding the forces at play (body roll in turns and such) and how a little maintenance can go a LONG way!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #15 June 8, 2012 Quote I'm going to have to be extra vigilant, especially due to the other drivers on the road. Paying attention. That's the problem too many U.S. drivers have. I've cruised thru France at 100 mph and felt like everyone was working together. In the U.S. . . . ehhh, not so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #16 June 8, 2012 Quote I've cruised thru France at 100 mph and felt like everyone was working together. In the U.S. . . . ehhh, not so much. And that was on a bicycle! --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #17 June 8, 2012 Quote 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill........How fast can i make this thing go. You say that like a posted speed limit would be a decision-making factor. We had Gandy Bridge....two separate bridges, two lanes going one way on each. Great test track. It was Saturday night at the races. (a little 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill humor there)My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #18 June 8, 2012 Quote I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. I-10 That road is so long you need to file for residency before you can get out of state....even at 85.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #19 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. I-10 That road is so long you need to file for residency before you can get out of state....even at 85. Yes, that is one long, straight road..... I remember when I moved from Austin out to Perris, I was not going to stop until I got out of Texas, and it took forever.... I've made that drive several times now, and it always takes me one day to drive through CA, AZ, and NM to get to Las Cruces, NM, and then another whole day to drive across Texas. Oh, I'll be doing that again in a few weeks. Except this time, I'm going to drive north through the Palo Duro Canyon on the way home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #20 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote Quote I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. I-10 That road is so long you need to file for residency before you can get out of state....even at 85. Yes, that is one long, straight road..... I remember when I moved from Austin out to Perris, I was not going to stop until I got out of Texas, and it took forever.... I've made that drive several times now, and it always takes me one day to drive through CA, AZ, and NM to get to Las Cruces, NM, and then another whole day to drive across Texas. Oh, I'll be doing that again in a few weeks. Except this time, I'm going to drive north through the Palo Duro Canyon on the way home. Cool place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #21 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill........How fast can i make this thing go. You say that like a posted speed limit would be a decision-making factor. Bingo! I remember being 17."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpwally 0 #22 June 8, 2012 I'm not against high speed but very,very few drivers can handle a tire blowout at 60 let alone at 85....yikessmile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #23 June 11, 2012 Quote Quote Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). All well and good until some idiot in a car he/she cant handle wants to do the TON and collides with a family in a station wagon Station wagon?? I'd be surprised if there are still any that are drivable! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #24 June 11, 2012 Quote I'm not against high speed but very,very few drivers can handle a tire blowout at 60 let alone at 85....yikes No shit. Ask my ex-fiance about that sometime. She had a penchant for speeding on the highway. When I questioned her about it, she was like time is important and time is wasted by going slow. She would hit 100 and stay at 100 if she could. I was like well what if you blow out a tire? Or get a speeding ticket? Boy did she get pissy, so I dropped it... and her a few months later when the relationship soured. I liked her parents though so I dropped in on them a few times over the years, and the ex had already moved to another state. Well, the last time I visited, the dad told me she had a tire blow out on the highway and she rolled her car 7 or 8 times and got herself banged up good. If there was ever a time I could have said "I fucking told you so!!" I would have! Another thing that bothered me about her driving style was she would sit with the car seat so far forward there was virtually no gap between her boobs and the steering wheel. I was like fuck, you need some fucking room or the air bag is gonna fuck you up. She said it's the safest way. Yeah right.... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigel99 613 #25 June 11, 2012 QuoteI don't know about actual German accident rates, but they've had many years to get used to the driving discipline and norms of behavior applicable to driving where there are lanes of traffic doing significantly different speeds. At least 85 mph would presumably be in easy enough to drive areas and it would be only a small change in existing behavior. Germany has some pretty bad accidents. About 2 years ago there was an accident in fog on the autobahn and people just drove into the fog at high speed. There were lots of cars involved. I don't trust speed. I learnt my lesson on the R6 cruising at 100+ mph and having a foreign truck start pulling into my lane. The engine hadn't even started to wind down and I we past him. After that I stopped speeding,it was entirely luck that I got past before he was in my way.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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pchapman 279 #10 June 8, 2012 I don't know about actual German accident rates, but they've had many years to get used to the driving discipline and norms of behavior applicable to driving where there are lanes of traffic doing significantly different speeds. At least 85 mph would presumably be in easy enough to drive areas and it would be only a small change in existing behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #11 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). I agree, Andy. Quote All well and good until some idiot in a car he/she cant handle wants to do the TON and collides with a family in a station wagon This could happen at virtually any highway speed. yes it can but the likelihood of it occurring on an unrestricted speed road would be increased. 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill........How fast can i make this thing go.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 June 8, 2012 Quote You could do 300mph and still be on the highway too long in that part of Texas! Having driven that a few times, I agree. And the same goes for Northern NV."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 June 8, 2012 Quoteshould just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor) Speed is never the only factor. Even at 70mph many people don't have their cars setup properly. They rely on the car's tire sensors to tell them if the tires are too low, instead of making sure that the air pressure is correct. They don't keep up with the condition of their tires and having their suspension adjusted correctly. They overload their vehicles or have improperly sized wheels/tires for their vehicle's handling ability and characteristics. The list could go on and we haven't even started to figure in the human factors of distraction and fatigue, much less any other contributing factor. I like to go fast, I also hate driving that stretch of Texas, but that doesn't mean the significant increase in speed (compared to 70/75mph in the rest of the state) is just as safe. If you want some mind numbing posts, I can go into a lot of details regarding Northwestern's data for driver reaction times, vehicle stopping distance and time/distance analysis of the combined factors. Or I can give you an anecdotal account of the first time my wife and I went to Big Bend together (the second trip for me) and how the advanced drivers training I've been privileged enough to have received saved us from a very bad wreck involving high speed and two large deer. The point is next time I go to Big Bend I'll make full use of the increased speed limit, but I'm going to have to be extra vigilant, especially due to the other drivers on the road.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #14 June 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteshould just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor) Speed is never the only factor. Even at 70mph many people don't have their cars setup properly. Like the guys I see daily driving 80mph with their spare doughnut on. I have taken a few courses in aggressive/tactical driving, that have gone pretty well into the dynamics of vehicle control and such. My truck has a rear sway bar, the tires are pumped a bit higher than the door panel states... It's amazing how little people can care about something that could save countless lives like knowing how to drive it, understanding the forces at play (body roll in turns and such) and how a little maintenance can go a LONG way!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #15 June 8, 2012 Quote I'm going to have to be extra vigilant, especially due to the other drivers on the road. Paying attention. That's the problem too many U.S. drivers have. I've cruised thru France at 100 mph and felt like everyone was working together. In the U.S. . . . ehhh, not so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 June 8, 2012 Quote I've cruised thru France at 100 mph and felt like everyone was working together. In the U.S. . . . ehhh, not so much. And that was on a bicycle! --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 June 8, 2012 Quote 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill........How fast can i make this thing go. You say that like a posted speed limit would be a decision-making factor. We had Gandy Bridge....two separate bridges, two lanes going one way on each. Great test track. It was Saturday night at the races. (a little 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill humor there)My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 June 8, 2012 Quote I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. I-10 That road is so long you need to file for residency before you can get out of state....even at 85.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #19 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. I-10 That road is so long you need to file for residency before you can get out of state....even at 85. Yes, that is one long, straight road..... I remember when I moved from Austin out to Perris, I was not going to stop until I got out of Texas, and it took forever.... I've made that drive several times now, and it always takes me one day to drive through CA, AZ, and NM to get to Las Cruces, NM, and then another whole day to drive across Texas. Oh, I'll be doing that again in a few weeks. Except this time, I'm going to drive north through the Palo Duro Canyon on the way home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote Quote I was thinking I-10 out of El Paso was already 85, but I guess it's just 80. I-10 That road is so long you need to file for residency before you can get out of state....even at 85. Yes, that is one long, straight road..... I remember when I moved from Austin out to Perris, I was not going to stop until I got out of Texas, and it took forever.... I've made that drive several times now, and it always takes me one day to drive through CA, AZ, and NM to get to Las Cruces, NM, and then another whole day to drive across Texas. Oh, I'll be doing that again in a few weeks. Except this time, I'm going to drive north through the Palo Duro Canyon on the way home. Cool place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 June 8, 2012 Quote Quote 17 year old V8 No Brains and less skill........How fast can i make this thing go. You say that like a posted speed limit would be a decision-making factor. Bingo! I remember being 17."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #22 June 8, 2012 I'm not against high speed but very,very few drivers can handle a tire blowout at 60 let alone at 85....yikessmile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #23 June 11, 2012 Quote Quote Here's an idea: if it's wide open & empty enough to justify an 85 limit, then it's enough to justify no limit at all, like on the Autobahn; and in any event, the cops along there should just leave everyone the heck alone about their speed (if that's the only factor). All well and good until some idiot in a car he/she cant handle wants to do the TON and collides with a family in a station wagon Station wagon?? I'd be surprised if there are still any that are drivable! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #24 June 11, 2012 Quote I'm not against high speed but very,very few drivers can handle a tire blowout at 60 let alone at 85....yikes No shit. Ask my ex-fiance about that sometime. She had a penchant for speeding on the highway. When I questioned her about it, she was like time is important and time is wasted by going slow. She would hit 100 and stay at 100 if she could. I was like well what if you blow out a tire? Or get a speeding ticket? Boy did she get pissy, so I dropped it... and her a few months later when the relationship soured. I liked her parents though so I dropped in on them a few times over the years, and the ex had already moved to another state. Well, the last time I visited, the dad told me she had a tire blow out on the highway and she rolled her car 7 or 8 times and got herself banged up good. If there was ever a time I could have said "I fucking told you so!!" I would have! Another thing that bothered me about her driving style was she would sit with the car seat so far forward there was virtually no gap between her boobs and the steering wheel. I was like fuck, you need some fucking room or the air bag is gonna fuck you up. She said it's the safest way. Yeah right.... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 613 #25 June 11, 2012 QuoteI don't know about actual German accident rates, but they've had many years to get used to the driving discipline and norms of behavior applicable to driving where there are lanes of traffic doing significantly different speeds. At least 85 mph would presumably be in easy enough to drive areas and it would be only a small change in existing behavior. Germany has some pretty bad accidents. About 2 years ago there was an accident in fog on the autobahn and people just drove into the fog at high speed. There were lots of cars involved. I don't trust speed. I learnt my lesson on the R6 cruising at 100+ mph and having a foreign truck start pulling into my lane. The engine hadn't even started to wind down and I we past him. After that I stopped speeding,it was entirely luck that I got past before he was in my way.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
