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Copyright infringement, not theft.



Theft. If you torrent movies, music, books you are STEALING from the rightful owners and denying them the profit of their work.

You are STEALING.
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Explain that one.... How does just living in Spain mean that you paid royalties for everything?

For Music I prefer Spotify anyways... why steal when everyone gets paid and I can stream via any device?
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You could always try NOT stealing stuff.


I live in Spain, I've already paid any royalties due for any thing I down load.



No. You absolutely have not. You are STEALING.

I know it might be difficult for you to understand because of some cock-n-bull story being told by the web sites, but you are STEALING regardless of whatever screen tax you might be paying. Those funds stay inside your country and do NOT get transferred back to whoever made the product.
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You could always try NOT stealing stuff.



I live in Spain, I've already paid any royalties due
for any thing I down load. So NOT stealing.



I see that it is legal for non-profit activities, but I don't see anything about royalties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aspects_of_file_sharing#Spain
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Explain that one.... How does just living in Spain mean that you paid royalties for everything?

For Music I prefer Spotify anyways... why steal when everyone gets paid and I can stream via any device?



SGAE (Spain's General Society of Composers and Publishers)
complained about pirating. The governments answer was to implement a royalty levied on all and any medium
capable of recording, be it analog or digital. The royalty is paid to SGAE.
I don't give a dam what SGAE does with the royalties I've paid them.

I know it's six years old but nothing has changed
SGAE backed the government into a corner and now regrets it.


http://slashdot.org/story/06/06/27/2156220/spain-adds-copyright-tax-to-blank-media

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Copyright infringement, not theft.



Theft. If you torrent movies, music, books you are STEALING from the rightful owners and denying them the profit of their work.

You are STEALING.



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denying them the profit of their work



So the Recording Industry and the film industries must be the biggest thieves, by your definition, considering that they take the lion's share of the profit.
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denying them the profit of their work


So the Recording Industry and the film industries must be the biggest thieves, by your definition, considering that they take the lion's share of the profit.



Hey, the artist signs the contract, that's between them, their agents and lawyers, but thieves just take.
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Copyright infringement, not theft.



Theft. If you torrent movies, music, books you are STEALING from the rightful owners and denying them the profit of their work.

You are STEALING.



The definition of theft is to take something from someone that is not yours. And a critical part of theft is that person being stolen from loses what ever is being stolen.

If I make a digital copy of a file, nobody loses nothing. The copyright owner doesn't magically loose the ability to make more copies them self. The only crime is that the copyright owner is not being compensated for the ownership of the copyright and it is based on the assumption that if I can't make a non-legal copy of the file I would pay, what ever sum the copyright owner wants me to pay, to them for the opportunity to make a copy of the file.

Its not theft no matter how many times you keep repeating it.
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>The definition of theft is to take something from someone that is not yours.

Agreed.

>And a critical part of theft is that person being stolen from loses what ever is being
>stolen.

No it's not. There is no such provision in the law.

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Explain that one.... How does just living in Spain mean that you paid royalties for everything?

For Music I prefer Spotify anyways... why steal when everyone gets paid and I can stream via any device?



SGAE (Spain's General Society of Composers and Publishers)
complained about pirating. The governments answer was to implement a royalty levied on all and any medium
capable of recording, be it analog or digital. The royalty is paid to SGAE.
I don't give a dam what SGAE does with the royalties I've paid them.

I know it's six years old but nothing has changed
SGAE backed the government into a corner and now regrets it.


http://slashdot.org/story/06/06/27/2156220/spain-adds-copyright-tax-to-blank-media



So what you are saying is the Spanish Government has made it legal for its citizens to steal for others. Sad.

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