National Anthem

[quade 4]

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The only time singing is not performance is when there is no audience (live or recorded)

I don't believe that's the point she was attempting to make. I believe she was attempting to say the notes should be precisely as written on on paper without any emotion via dynamics, slurs, shifts in timing, etc. As if that's either humanly possible or desirable.

If the song is sung emotionally at all, it's a performance regardless of the presence of an external audience.

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[TriGirl 343]

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The only time singing is not performance is when there is no audience (live or recorded)

I don't believe that's the point she was attempting to make. I believe she was attempting to say the notes should be precisely as written on on paper without any emotion via dynamics, slurs, shifts in timing, etc. As if that's either humanly possible or desirable.

If the song is sung emotionally at all, it's a performance regardless of the presence of an external audience.

No, I mean that in an official event, it is about the anthem, not about the singer. When singers try to "make it their own," (read: embellish), they're making it about them, not about honoring the nation.

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[quade 4]

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The only time singing is not performance is when there is no audience (live or recorded)

I don't believe that's the point she was attempting to make. I believe she was attempting to say the notes should be precisely as written on on paper without any emotion via dynamics, slurs, shifts in timing, etc. As if that's either humanly possible or desirable.

If the song is sung emotionally at all, it's a performance regardless of the presence of an external audience.

No, I mean that in an official event, it is about the anthem, not about the singer. When singers try to "make it their own," (read: embellish), they're making it about them, not about honoring the nation.

But to a certain extent, you're asking the impossible.

For instance, name a singer you think has sung the national anthem well by your standards. If you can, you've disproved your own point.

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[TriGirl 343]

Perhaps this will make my point better:

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Performer Etiquette
Although it is not legally specified, performers of the National Anthem are generally expected to behave in a fashion that reflects the solemnity and honor of the occasion. Performers should sing the song to the best of their ability, without significant deviation from the original notation.

THe "significant deviation" is the "embellishment" to which I was referring. Also the "warbling voice with trills and octave jumps" in Kallend's OP.

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(See also 36 US Code 301)

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[quade 4]

And as I've stated earlier in the thread, it's an appropriate guideline for official government functions.

However, to say its the only way it should ever be sung in all situations is simply unacceptable in a free society.

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[Squeak 17]

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Perhaps this will make my point better:

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Performer Etiquette
Although it is not legally specified, performers of the National Anthem are generally expected to behave in a fashion that reflects the solemnity and honor of the occasion. Performers should sing the song to the best of their ability, without significant deviation from the original notation.

THe "significant deviation" is the "embellishment" to which I was referring. Also the "warbling voice with trills and octave jumps" in Kallend's OP.

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(See also 36 US Code 301)

dont argue with Quade it's beneath you. he'll just change shit about to suit he current post, and bring shit from google

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Pay attention to your own house, little mouse.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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Perhaps this will make my point better:

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Performer Etiquette
Although it is not legally specified, performers of the National Anthem are generally expected to behave in a fashion that reflects the solemnity and honor of the occasion. Performers should sing the song to the best of their ability, without significant deviation from the original notation.

THe "significant deviation" is the "embellishment" to which I was referring. Also the "warbling voice with trills and octave jumps" in Kallend's OP.

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(See also 36 US Code 301)

The people who wrote those "standards" were just that: people, with individual tastes and biases, and who reflect their respective subcultures. They don't speak for all people, or for all times. Frankly, I find those warbling, trilling anthems sung at games as discordant as the OP does; but that's me, and it reflects my personal tastes, and possibly stage of life. I sure as hell don't speak for everyone.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for Snowwhite to enlighten us on why the Flying Spaghetti Monster prefers one musical version of a given country's national song to another.

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Pay attention to your own house, little mouse.

I do and my house is doing quite well Google it, and check

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It's difficult to define, but easy to spot.

A country station in Huntsville, AL plays a different country version each morning at 0700. None of them are anything but respectful. Some are duets. Some are harmony. Most are solos. All bring a tear to my eye (not in the Rosanne way).

As long as the rendition evokes thoughts of patriots old and new; perfect ideals pursued by imperfect people, and; a disparate group of people unified by a common belief that the US rocks, I am not going to quibble.

While it lasts, it should provoke an emotional response in the listener. It should remind each of us that we are the beneficiaries of centuries of labor, sweat, blood, passion, debate, love, duty, successes and failures. Simultaneously, it should prick our conscience that we have inherited a duty to those who came before us. We have to protect the gift that was given us at such a high cost. It does all of this and more for me on a regular basis. I am grateful for that.

As soon as it becomes about the performer or performance, I am offended. They robbed me of the many benefits I outlined above.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[TriGirl 343]

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And as I've stated earlier in the thread, it's an appropriate guideline for official government functions.

However, to say its the only way it should ever be sung in all situations is simply unacceptable in a free society.

Which I did not say. I said "official" events (incidentally, the US Code I reference does define official events to include the opening of sporting events -- but not "all situations").

I will also agree that the Hendrix version is a classic. Suitable to be replayed via recording for the enjoyment of the listener again and again. That also goes along with Davjohns' reference to the radio edits his station likes to broadcast. That is not an official event at which the singer is presenting the anthem -- although I'm sure many, if not all of those recorded renditions are suitable for official events.

See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus

Shut Up & Jump!