davjohns 1 #26 November 23, 2012 Quote Quote she can always go for the old tried-and-true burst-into-tears mode. My daughter, who's in her early 20s and (trust me on this) is very attractive, did that when stopped for a minor infraction. Tells me cop was very nice, but... >>> Ticket. Quote I've talked my way out of about half my tickets. A little politeness and contrition go a long way. Yep, that's been roughly my experience & ratio, too. An attorney says 'trust me'....???? You know the rules of bonfire. Pictures, sir. Pictures. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #27 November 26, 2012 Well, people in all professions interpret and apply the rules differently according to the person, humour, and circumstances... I'm certain there are a variety of factors that make the same cop give a ticket to one person and not another... Some cops apply the rule the same way no matter what the circumstances... I don't personally feel that a cop's job is to "punish" people, but to keep order (aka to "serve and protect")... Although I can appreciate why that would sometimes involve making people "pay" / feel bad for their crimes..."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #28 November 26, 2012 Quote I don't personally feel that a cop's job is to "punish" people, but to keep order (aka to "serve and protect")... Unfortunately many police do feel it's their job to punish. Be wary of people in whom the urge to punish is strong.(Esp. Banesaura ) Funny thing, but I was talking the other day at work about an air traffic control situation in which pilots can innocently violate fed. regs by accident. I said we should bring it to their attention and offer alternative courses of action. I was surprised at the number of coworkers who said "Our job isn't to be skycops!" They didn't understand that I had no intent to violate and punish any pilot, but to merely keep them out of unsafe situations. Our job IS to "serve and protect." Sheesh, typical government workers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregpso 1 #29 November 26, 2012 I was on the road for 12 years in the job (Police) if a driver failed the "attitude test " they got a ticket... always !! Polite hardly ever !! unless a special crackdown or special effort like easter road toll blitz. Or if was squeak I pulled over.. instant ticket !! (only joking squeak)I tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #30 November 26, 2012 Quote I was on the road for 12 years in the job (Police) if a driver failed the "attitude test " they got a ticket... always !! Polite hardly ever !! It was that effective? Thanks. I'll keep being polite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #31 November 26, 2012 Quote Quote I was on the road for 12 years in the job (Police) if a driver failed the "attitude test " they got a ticket... always !! Polite hardly ever !! It was that effective? Thanks. I'll keep being polite. Well, you have nothing to lose by being polite, and everything to gain "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #32 December 2, 2012 Quote Well, you have nothing to lose by being polite, and everything to gain Damn, I got pulled over yesterday for talking on my cell phone while driving. Had my license, registration and insurance card waiting when he got to the window. Was polite, admitted I was on the phone and said "Sorry". He came back after running my license and plate, gave me a good tip about how a minor accident becomes a major if they prove you were on you phone, and then let me go. I really thought I was going to get a ticket this time. I really will try to stay off my damn phone while driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #33 December 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteI am in Africa, You want to narrow that down a tad? QuoteMy friend exited a casino, After all, there aren't that many casinos in Africa.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #34 December 2, 2012 Quote I really will try to stay off my damn phone while driving. Get yourself a Bluetooth. All smartphones are compatible with them these days. I got one of the lower-priced ones at Best Buys. Works great, and I love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #35 December 2, 2012 Quote Quote I really will try to stay off my damn phone while driving. Get yourself a Bluetooth. All smartphones are compatible with them these days. I got one of the lower-priced ones at Best Buys. Works great, and I love it. While I agree with Andy that bluetooth is safer, I still think a phone conversation is too distracting whilst you're driving. Unless talking and driving are both necessary parts of your job (usually this is NOT the case) the phone can wait. Naughty, NAUGHTY John. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #36 December 2, 2012 Quote While I agree with Andy that bluetooth is safer, I still think a phone conversation is too distracting whilst you're driving. Agreed. Studies have proven the issue is the shift of mental concentration from driving to conversing, not the act of physically holding the phone."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 December 2, 2012 QuoteQuote While I agree with Andy that bluetooth is safer, I still think a phone conversation is too distracting whilst you're driving. Agreed. Studies have proven the issue is the shift of mental concentration from driving to conversing, not the act of physically holding the phone. I agree generally; but to pick nits, from personal experience, I do find my ability to concentrate while driving is less distracted when I'm on a hands-free than when I'm holding the phone to my ear and doing everything else one-handed. That's just me, FWIW. Seems I noticed an up-tick in "family car-type people" not using turn signals once personal cell phones hit the common scene. (Of course, this excludes pickup truck drivers, who never signal turns anyway.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #38 December 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote While I agree with Andy that bluetooth is safer, I still think a phone conversation is too distracting whilst you're driving. Agreed. Studies have proven the issue is the shift of mental concentration from driving to conversing, not the act of physically holding the phone. I agree generally; but to pick nits, from personal experience, I do find my ability to concentrate while driving is less distracted when I'm on a hands-free than when I'm holding the phone to my ear and doing everything else one-handed. That's just me, FWIW. Seems I noticed an up-tick in "family car-type people" not using turn signals once personal cell phones hit the common scene. (Of course, this excludes pickup truck drivers, who never signal turns anyway.) ....................................................................... Is that why turn signal lights have fallen out of fashion in Vancouver? Well ... um .. er .. turn signal lights are still in fashion ... but they are more for decoration .. like Christmas tree lights ... but amateur drivers no longer use them???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #39 December 2, 2012 Think of the old air traffic controllers' dilemma: "How do you ruin a pilot's ability to do math?" Answer: " Spin a propeller in front of him!" Hah! Hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #40 December 2, 2012 I agree 100%. I hate talking on the phone (I love conversations by text I can carry on a conversation with a passenger without a problem, I can sing at the top of my lungs (it may bother others), and threaten to come "back there" and deal with the kid in the backseat all while still being aware of the traffic around me, but I cannot carry on a phone conversation (even bluetoothed). Next thing I know, I'm below the speed limit (which around here means you are in the way of everyone else), and I have no idea how I got the few miles to where I am now. Usually the person on the other end can't make heads or tails of what I'm saying, anyway! I think the concentration in order to make a conversation on the phone just isn't worth it, for me, anyway. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,466 #41 December 2, 2012 Hi John, Quote I got pulled over yesterday for talking on my cell phone while driving. It took me quite some time to make myself NOT answer my cell phone while driving. Now, I just hit the button that kicks it over to voice mail immediately. I also always pull over and stop if I want to make a call. My newer car has Bluetooth and now I use that; but only for answering the phone. And the Bluetooth does distract me slightly. JerryBaumchen PS) I am 'conditioned' to always answer a phone that is ringing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #42 December 2, 2012 Turn Signals? FWIW, I don't think I've ever seen a cop use them. Aggie Dave: what's with that? I've followed many a cop, but they weave in and out of traffic in what I can only describe as "Stealth Mode." No DRLs, no turn signals. It almost makes them noticable when I see them in the rear-view mirror. Oh, and they usually are on the phone, and messing with the laptop, running the radar (some of them run it up, then run it down--are they trying to "catch a radar detector user" up close with out warning?). They are doing many other things that keep their eyes OFF the road, I can't even begin to imagine what those might be. I guess they are counting on the fact that those right around them won't run into them. I guess they are the ultimate multi-taskers. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #43 December 3, 2012 Quote Naughty, NAUGHTY John. You're certainly not the first woman to say that to me. . .Edited to add: But I like how you say it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #44 December 3, 2012 Quote Think of the old air traffic controllers' dilemma: "How do you ruin a pilot's ability to do math?" Answer: " Spin a propeller in front of him!" Hah! Hah! Thanks for that one. I'm gonna file it away for future use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #45 December 3, 2012 QuoteQuote While I agree with Andy that bluetooth is safer, I still think a phone conversation is too distracting whilst you're driving. Agreed. Studies have proven the issue is the shift of mental concentration from driving to conversing, not the act of physically holding the phone. Exactly. Yeah... It's hard not answering a ringing phone... I even feel stressed when I'm on the bike and can feel the phone ringing in my pocket (even though I know I would never have time to pull over, stop the engine, remove my helmet and answer before the person hung up!)... Nevertheless, no call is worth running over a pedestrian/cyclist/biker/other car... Ironically, on a bike you see people's driving behaviour SOOOO much more clearly, and you can almost always tell when someone is on the phone - even when it's hands-free. It's scary..."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
