Ron 10 #26 December 3, 2004 Quote I get a little grief from some more experienced jumpers about having an “RSL” but typically they don’t understand the difference between and RSL and a Skyhook. After some explanation they typically accept my reasoning for it and a few have talked about retrofitting their rigs. did you pull the reserve?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #27 December 3, 2004 QuoteQuote I get a little grief from some more experienced jumpers about having an “RSL” but typically they don’t understand the difference between and RSL and a Skyhook. After some explanation they typically accept my reasoning for it and a few have talked about retrofitting their rigs. did you pull the reserve? Ron, if your question is, "Did I pull the reserve handle during my cutaway?" than the answer is Yes. I followed my full EP's as I was taught. Did the Skyhook beat me? Yes? If your question is otherwise then please clarify. Regards, Ron (the other one)"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #28 December 4, 2004 QuoteRon, if your question is, "Did I pull the reserve handle during my cutaway?" than the answer is Yes. I followed my full EP's as I was taught. Did the Skyhook beat me? Yes? Nope, that was my question. Good job. I don't see why anyone would give you grief if you pulled both handles. The only way you could beat the skyhook is to pull the resevre first...that would be bad"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #29 December 4, 2004 QuoteBTW, watch out for factory packjob prices. I love RWS, but they charge an arm and a leg for reserve and main packjobs. I think a guy I know was charged $80 for the reserve and $40 for the main after getting a skyhook installed. Shipping would probably be cheaper without the main installed anyway. I guess you could get it shipped back with the reserve unpacked too... Dave I thinks you have a friend thats full of it, all the prices are available online. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #30 December 4, 2004 QuoteI thinks you have a friend thats full of it, all the prices are available online. You are half right. The prices are available online: http://www.relativeworkshop.com/pdf_files/05257.pdf Main assembly, inspect: $40 Reserve assemble, inspect, and repack: $80 skyhook install: $275 So the main packjob includes an inspection... he was asked if he wanted his main repacked, he said yes, they charged $40. True story. Not saying a factory main repack isnt worth $40 or that a reserve packjob isnt worth $80. Just saying that's what they charge. No reason not to get a skyhook... it's worth at least $275 + an $80 repack. I'm just glad I bought mine with my rig and had my rigger install it and pack it for $40, and throw in a main packjob too. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #31 December 4, 2004 Quoteit's worth at least $275 + an $80 repack. That's a $90 install. Suposing RWS's rigging ratew is $45 an hour, that's a 2 hour job NOT including the repack. The Skyhook as an option on a new rig is $185. 2 hours not including the repack sounds like quite a lot but I don't know what the install entails.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #32 December 4, 2004 Could be anything from just putting the Skyhook on the bridle, to installing a Collins lanyard, putting a RSL ripcord on and the RSL. If its $275 for the latter option then its a steal for a $90 install fee.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bliston 0 #33 December 4, 2004 It also includes sewing in an additional flap into the reserve container (the 2A flap) and the tap pockets into the #2 flap, installing the new thicker housing required for the different ripcord... maybe other stuff I'm not thinking of. I don't know if the changing of the reserve ripcord (from pin to the loop that slide over the large RSL pin) and sewing the RSL connector ring into the existing right main riser is included in the cost of the mod. Probablly something to check into. With the price of risers and reserve handles, the cost could add up if changing them over isn't included in the $275. BenMass Defiance 4-wayFS website sticks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #34 December 6, 2004 From Bill Booth: "If an existing rig has no provision for an RSL in the first place, (riser ring, velcro bridle path) then the answer would be at least $200. To install a Skyhook from scratch you have to 1. Disassemble, and sew an RSL attachment ring to the right riser. 2. Sew an RSL bridle path over the right shoulder. 3. Shorten the reserve freebag bridle and sew a Skyhook to it. 4. Remove the single long 3-ring housing, and replace it with a split housing for the Collins' Lanyard. 5. Fabricate and install the Skyhook bridle attachment "pockets" and flap to the top reserve pilot chute kicker flap. 6. Fabricate the combination RSL, Collins' Lanyard, and Skyhook Lanyard. And 7. Put the "whole nine yards" together. Needless to say, this is much easier to do on a new rig while you are making it. As an option on a new Vector III, we charge $175. This is actually quite a deal when you consider that a lost reserve freebag and pilot chute cost $195 to replace, and the Skyhook greatly lowers the chance you will ever lose your freebag." Source: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=951886#951886 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
