Nataly 38 #1 August 12, 2013 If we had the ability to control the weather, would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Who would get to control it and why? Or should NO ONE be allowed to tamper with it. EVER. Hmmmmm... (Please don't take this to SC - please keep it light, friendly and ideally entertaining... Plllleeeeeeeeeeeease )"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 August 12, 2013 The amount of control over the weather (as opposed to climate) humans have is pretty much infinitesimal. The energy requirements to have any significant short term local effects are enormous -- on the order of setting off atomic bombs. It's not just that we shouldn't do it because of the law of unintended consequences, but for the foreseeable future it's simply impossible to harness and control that amount of energy. The physics just isn't there regardless of what some tin-foil hatters might want to get excited about.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 2 #3 August 12, 2013 Jumpers would want no rain and the farmers would want rain. Maybe let the skydivers control it on the weekends and the farmers have it the rest of the week. And there are a lot of other groups of people who want the weather to do some thing else.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #4 August 12, 2013 Nataly If we had the ability to control the weather, would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Who would get to control it and why? Or should NO ONE be allowed to tamper with it. EVER. Hmmmmm... (Please don't take this to SC - please keep it light, friendly and ideally entertaining... Plllleeeeeeeeeeeease ) we already do..it's called HAARP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 August 12, 2013 As for the "fairness" argument . . . There would be no fair way to do it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #6 August 12, 2013 Nope. We already have the power to "control" the weather we live in by choosing to live in certain climates over others; I feel like that's enough control for any humans to have. Personally I'm a fan of seasons (though I kind of like the "lite" seasons that my current climate has), and even though sometimes weather affects my ability to do what I want on a given day, it's really not a huge deal, ever. Then again, my livelihood doesn't depend on the weather. With modern technology we can live in just about any climate, though there's probably a more-SC-friendly argument to be made against living in some. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #7 August 12, 2013 NWFlyer Nope. We already have the power to "control" the weather we live in by choosing to live in certain climates over others But we have to put up with the locals... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 August 12, 2013 Nataly ***Nope. We already have the power to "control" the weather we live in by choosing to live in certain climates over others But we have to put up with the locals... I think the real issue is the locals (who were clearly there first) having to put up with the ex-pats, but I guess it's all relative.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #9 August 12, 2013 quade ******Nope. We already have the power to "control" the weather we live in by choosing to live in certain climates over others But we have to put up with the locals... I think the real issue is the locals (who were clearly there first) having to put up with the ex-pats, but I guess it's all relative. Hey!!! Why burst my bubble??! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 August 12, 2013 How is that "bursting your bubble?" In my book it's always locals before snowbirds/ex-pats or whatever. I understand the tourist trade might say otherwise, but the locals live there and the snowbirds/ex-pats are simply visiting.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #11 August 12, 2013 >If we had the ability to control the weather, would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Bad thing. Everyone would be suing anyone related to weather control pretty much continuously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #12 August 12, 2013 quade How is that "bursting your bubble?" Because I'm the expat but I like to see *others* as being the problem Quote In my book it's always locals before snowbirds/ex-pats or whatever. I understand the tourist trade might say otherwise, but the locals live there and the snowbirds/ex-pats are simply visiting. Depends... Some expats never leave... Or stay long enough almost be considered locals... Almost."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 August 12, 2013 Nataly Quote In my book it's always locals before snowbirds/ex-pats or whatever. I understand the tourist trade might say otherwise, but the locals live there and the snowbirds/ex-pats are simply visiting. Depends... Some expats never leave... Or stay long enough almost be considered locals... Almost. Didn't you buy a flat there? I'd say that makes you a "local"."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #14 August 13, 2013 ryoder Didn't you buy a flat there? I'd say that makes you a "local". Oh no... They will never consider me to be "one of them." Lovely use of "flat" instead of "appartment" btw!! You know my fondness for British-isms!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #15 August 13, 2013 I seem to recall that there have already been lawsuits over cloud seeding and I don't know if we're even certain how much that affects the weather yet! Absolute control over it would be too much lawsuit fodder for any entity capable of controlling the weather. Weather is also an inherently chaotic system. We'd be tinkering with the global climate. I doubt anything good would come of that. That being said, I'd pick one guy at random and make it rain on him, constantly I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #16 August 13, 2013 Every Monday it could rain all it wanted, and every weekend it would be sunny. I'd love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 August 13, 2013 JohnMitchell Every Monday it could rain all it wanted, and every weekend it would be sunny. I'd love it. The solution for when it should rain would be trivial: Let it begin raining any night after 9pm and stop by 6am. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #18 August 13, 2013 FlyingRhenquest That being said, I'd pick one guy at random and make it rain on him, constantly Awww... That just reminds me of a story I heard somewhere... A guy had clouds over him and wherever he went, these clouds followed him and pissed rain on him... This guy was totally depressed, cursing his bad luck, et cetera. Which is a shame, because the clouds absolutely loved him... They loved him so much, they showered him with rain everywhere he went so he would grow and blossom and be happy... Something to do with different perspectives... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #19 August 13, 2013 Nataly Which is a shame, because the clouds absolutely loved him... They loved him so much, they showered him with rain everywhere he went so he would grow and blossom and be happy... Something to do with different perspectives... He could make big bucks touring the corn belt states during summer droughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #20 August 13, 2013 JohnMitchell ***Which is a shame, because the clouds absolutely loved him... They loved him so much, they showered him with rain everywhere he went so he would grow and blossom and be happy... Something to do with different perspectives... He could make big bucks touring the corn belt states during summer droughts. Hey! I saw that episode! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rain_King"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #21 August 13, 2013 HAARP? You're kidding me? If ANY government controls the weather, it's the English. They do it by "decree." It's true! http://youtu.be/wzh6VKpB6qc So, you know, don't be thinking this idea is anything new.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #22 August 13, 2013 FlyingRhenquest I seem to recall that there have already been lawsuits over cloud seeding and I don't know if we're even certain how much that affects the weather yet! Absolute control over it would be too much lawsuit fodder for any entity capable of controlling the weather. Weather is also an inherently chaotic system. We'd be tinkering with the global climate. I doubt anything good would come of that. That being said, I'd pick one guy at random and make it rain on him, constantly Random? You'd squander that kind of power just to screw someone you did even know? It takes a special kind of evil to do that. I'd hate to see what you would do to someone you didn't like. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #23 August 13, 2013 Quote Oh no... They will never consider me to be "one of them." Of course not. You talk funny. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #24 August 13, 2013 Remster Quote Oh no... They will never consider me to be "one of them." Of course not. You talk funny. We here at K-Billy's Super Sounds of the Seventies would like to dedicate this next song to Nataly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbeqj-1XOo"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #25 August 13, 2013 Remster Quote Oh no... They will never consider me to be "one of them." Of course not. You talk funny. Yep... In England my English is funny... In France my French is funny... My Swedish is funny... My Italian is hysterical... My Arabic is laughable... Should I become a comedienne??!! It seems I'm hilarious!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
