If You're Going To Shoplift From Victoria's Secret....

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

You probably shouldn't be carrying around your dead baby in a bag.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/18/mom-of-victorias-secret-baby-facing-homicide-charges/

What. The. Eff.

This pisses me off so much. I would've taken the baby if she didn't want him.



ETA another article link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/victoria-secret-shoplifter-faces-homicide-charges-article-1.1489866

Always be kinder than you feel.

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LuckyMcSwervy

You probably shouldn't be carrying around your dead baby in a bag.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/18/mom-of-victorias-secret-baby-facing-homicide-charges/

What. The. Eff.

This pisses me off so much. I would've taken the baby if she didn't want him.



ETA another article link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/victoria-secret-shoplifter-faces-homicide-charges-article-1.1489866

Pssswah . . .it was just a late term abortion.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[JohnMitchell 16]

Second kid, had her first one when she was 15, probably got pregnant at 14. This is all so wrong in so many ways, from what she did to how our society is so full of unmarried teenage moms. . .

[Andy9o8 2]

Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?





What, too soon?

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

JohnMitchell

Second kid, had her first one when she was 15, probably got pregnant at 14. This is all so wrong in so many ways, from what she did to how our society is so full of unmarried teenage moms. . .

I totally agree. I mean, she's already had one child so I'm thinking the "shock" of laying the news of another pregnancy on her mom (because I'm "assuming" she's in a 1 parent home ) shouldn't be THAT great? What's the problem? Added expense to her household? Additional childcare? Pissing off the guy who got her pregnant?

I'd like 5 minutes in the mind of a person like this. I have such a hard time wrapping my mind around suffocating a newborn miracle.

Here's another doozy:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/would-be-nun-charged-baby-killing-article-1.1490274

A nun in training? She named her baby Joseph? OMG.. I may drink today.

Always be kinder than you feel.

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

Andy9o8

Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?





What, too soon?

Dead baby in a bag, smelling of human decomposition. This girl is out stealing lingerie and make up? For what? To try to attract a guy, I bet. It's so damn sad how some kids have no self respect or fear of the consequences of their actions.

I lived with a healthy fear of my parents (and teachers, coaches, etc.) and the Catholic guilt of burning in hell if I did something "wrong" when I was that age.

I've worked in the court system my entire adult life and I've seen some truly horrid things no one should ever have to be a part of. Some days I'm totally hard nosed and cold to it and other days I can be upset/bothered by it for days/weeks.

Always be kinder than you feel.

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LuckyMcSwervy

***Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?





What, too soon?

Dead baby in a bag, smelling of human decomposition. This girl is out stealing lingerie and make up? For what? To try to attract a guy, I bet. It's so damn sad how some kids have no self respect or fear of the consequences of their actions.

I lived with a healthy fear of my parents (and teachers, coaches, etc.) and the Catholic guilt of burning in hell if I did something "wrong" when I was that age.

I've worked in the court system my entire adult life and I've seen some truly horrid things no one should ever have to be a part of. Some days I'm totally hard nosed and cold to it and other days I can be upset/bothered by it for days/weeks.

Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

turtlespeed

******Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?



What, too soon?

Dead baby in a bag, smelling of human decomposition. This girl is out stealing lingerie and make up? For what? To try to attract a guy, I bet. It's so damn sad how some kids have no self respect or fear of the consequences of their actions.

I lived with a healthy fear of my parents (and teachers, coaches, etc.) and the Catholic guilt of burning in hell if I did something "wrong" when I was that age.

I've worked in the court system my entire adult life and I've seen some truly horrid things no one should ever have to be a part of. Some days I'm totally hard nosed and cold to it and other days I can be upset/bothered by it for days/weeks.

Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

I just can't see how it's possible to hide a pregnancy. Or did she hide it from her family?

Yeah, definitely parenting issues. But then again I've been told I have no right to speak of the way someone parents, or doesn't parent, because I have no children.

Always be kinder than you feel.

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LuckyMcSwervy

*********Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?



What, too soon?

Dead baby in a bag, smelling of human decomposition. This girl is out stealing lingerie and make up? For what? To try to attract a guy, I bet. It's so damn sad how some kids have no self respect or fear of the consequences of their actions.

I lived with a healthy fear of my parents (and teachers, coaches, etc.) and the Catholic guilt of burning in hell if I did something "wrong" when I was that age.

I've worked in the court system my entire adult life and I've seen some truly horrid things no one should ever have to be a part of. Some days I'm totally hard nosed and cold to it and other days I can be upset/bothered by it for days/weeks.

Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

I just can't see how it's possible to hide a pregnancy. Or did she hide it from her family?

Yeah, definitely parenting issues. But then again I've been told I have no right to speak of the way someone parents, or doesn't parent, because I have no children.

A LOT of it is common sense. I wish more people would stay childless. If you can't deal with it, do the right thing, and, can't not be an absentee parent. don't populate.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[LuckyMcSwervy 0]

turtlespeed

************Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?



What, too soon?

Dead baby in a bag, smelling of human decomposition. This girl is out stealing lingerie and make up? For what? To try to attract a guy, I bet. It's so damn sad how some kids have no self respect or fear of the consequences of their actions.

I lived with a healthy fear of my parents (and teachers, coaches, etc.) and the Catholic guilt of burning in hell if I did something "wrong" when I was that age.

I've worked in the court system my entire adult life and I've seen some truly horrid things no one should ever have to be a part of. Some days I'm totally hard nosed and cold to it and other days I can be upset/bothered by it for days/weeks.

Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

I just can't see how it's possible to hide a pregnancy. Or did she hide it from her family?

Yeah, definitely parenting issues. But then again I've been told I have no right to speak of the way someone parents, or doesn't parent, because I have no children.

A LOT of it is common sense. I wish more people would stay childless. If you can't deal with it, do the right thing, and, can't not be an absentee parent. don't populate.

All she had to do was give birth and walk the baby to a Safe Haven. I see the signs all over. NYC, police departments, court houses, public transportation hubs, etc. There's no way this girl didn't know about it. I also guess she's on public assistance. I bet they have those signs in those offices as well. Oh, and public health clinics.

This chick's gonna get her ass kicked in jail.

Always be kinder than you feel.

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LuckyMcSwervy

***************Hey, how many dead babies does it take to steal a negligee?



What, too soon?

Dead baby in a bag, smelling of human decomposition. This girl is out stealing lingerie and make up? For what? To try to attract a guy, I bet. It's so damn sad how some kids have no self respect or fear of the consequences of their actions.

I lived with a healthy fear of my parents (and teachers, coaches, etc.) and the Catholic guilt of burning in hell if I did something "wrong" when I was that age.

I've worked in the court system my entire adult life and I've seen some truly horrid things no one should ever have to be a part of. Some days I'm totally hard nosed and cold to it and other days I can be upset/bothered by it for days/weeks.

Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

I just can't see how it's possible to hide a pregnancy. Or did she hide it from her family?

Yeah, definitely parenting issues. But then again I've been told I have no right to speak of the way someone parents, or doesn't parent, because I have no children.

A LOT of it is common sense. I wish more people would stay childless. If you can't deal with it, do the right thing, and, can't not be an absentee parent. don't populate.

All she had to do was give birth and walk the baby to a Safe Haven. I see the signs all over. NYC, police departments, court houses, public transportation hubs, etc. There's no way this girl didn't know about it. I also guess she's on public assistance. I bet they have those signs in those offices as well. Oh, and public health clinics.

This chick's gonna get her ass kicked in jail.

There is no justice for this. None that our laws permit anyway.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[TriGirl 343]

LuckyMcSwervy

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Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

Yeah, definitely parenting issues. But then again I've been told I have no right to speak of the way someone parents, or doesn't parent, because I have no children.

I don't want this to get moved to SC, so I'll phrase my comments carefully! The public school system is funded by EVERYONE's taxes, even though you don't have kids. It's part of the whole "good of society/benefits everyone" argument. Just throw that back at the next person who tries to say you can't have an opinion on parenting issues.

If you choose not to have kids, you are not selfish or hypocritical (on this matter especially). If you have them and choose to keep them, then you've chosen to be a parent. Now step up to the plate and BE one! Especially as it in turn contributes to your kid being a productive member of that society.

So there you go, McSwervy -- best way to counter those jerks who say you have no right to criticize bad parenting.

See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus

Shut Up & Jump!

[Andy9o8 2]

TriGirl

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Parenting . . . its what it all boils down to.

Yeah, definitely parenting issues. But then again I've been told I have no right to speak of the way someone parents, or doesn't parent, because I have no children.

I don't want this to get moved to SC, so I'll phrase my comments carefully! The public school system is funded by EVERYONE's taxes, even though you don't have kids. It's part of the whole "good of society/benefits everyone" argument. Just throw that back at the next person who tries to say you can't have an opinion on parenting issues.

If you choose not to have kids, you are not selfish or hypocritical (on this matter especially). If you have them and choose to keep them, then you've chosen to be a parent. Now step up to the plate and BE one! Especially as it in turn contributes to your kid being a productive member of that society.

So there you go, McSwervy -- best way to counter those jerks who say you have no right to criticize bad parenting.
It's really not so much a matter of right; it's more a matter of qualification. I've been around for over 50 years, and have been a parent for over 20 of them; and my experience is that, broadly speaking, those who actually are parents generally understand the nuances and grey areas of parenting better than those who have never had children, even notwithstanding the latter cohort's own age, education or intelligence (like a couple of childless friends of ours who have spent their careers as middle school teachers; some of the presumptuous shit they say about parenting are real doozies).

Put another way, I find that those who tend to speak about parenting issues in terms of firm, often judgmental, absolutes more often than not have never had children themselves. (Except for Pentacostalists, who for some reason all seem to do that.)