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If somebody was generous enough to give me $100,000, I would be able to get my bachelors in computer science and start my skydiving career, bus and all! What do ya say? I would be forever grateful.:$
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Can't give you 100 grand but I can give you free education.

Come to Finland and its free (paid by Finnish tax payers). For instance the University I'm in, only requires me to pay a 90 eur admittance fee for both fall&spring semesters combined. So you'll basically only have to pay for housing, food, clothes, the usual you'd end up paying for anyway. And as a student you can get some pretty cheap student housing (paid by taxpayers again) and if you're willing to eat at the student cafeteria where ever you're studying you'll get cheap meals too (taxpayers). For instance the cheapest student meal I can get is 1,23 eur per meal.

Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.

But other then that, just apply for Finnish University (remember you don't actually need to learn/know single word of Finnish, you just need English) and you don't need to worry about amounting a single cent of student debt.
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Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.



. . . or the feeling that you are stealing and just can't live with it.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.



. . . or the feeling that you are stealing and just can't live with it.

:P
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Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.



. . . or the feeling that you are stealing and just can't live with it.

Its not stealing if the other people are dumb enough to give it away for free.

Say I'd offer you hundred dollars, no strings attached, would you take it? Of course you would, like most other people would also.

In the same vein the Finnish government has decided that it will offer University level education to any foreigner who is willing to come to live in Finland without having to pay for any tuition fees. How can it be stealing if you're just accept something that is being given for free? Also wouldn't it extremely stupid to get into 100's of thousands into debt for something that can be had for free? Are Americans really that allergic to any form of socialism that they'd rather get into a massive debt, on principle, then participate just a little bit in a socialist system?
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Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.



. . . or the feeling that you are stealing and just can't live with it.

Its not stealing if the other people are dumb enough to give it away for free.

Say I'd offer you hundred dollars, no strings attached, would you take it? Of course you would, like most other people would also.

In the same vein the Finnish government has decided that it will offer University level education to any foreigner who is willing to come to live in Finland without having to pay for any tuition fees. How can it be stealing if you're just accept something that is being given for free? Also wouldn't it extremely stupid to get into 100's of thousands into debt for something that can be had for free? Are Americans really that allergic to any form of socialism that they'd rather get into a massive debt, on principle, then participate just a little bit in a socialist system?

Simple.

All you have to understand is that Nothing in life is free.

it always costs someone.

Whatever you are taking for "free" is something someone else worked for.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.



. . . or the feeling that you are stealing and just can't live with it.

Its not stealing if the other people are dumb enough to give it away for free.

Say I'd offer you hundred dollars, no strings attached, would you take it? Of course you would, like most other people would also.

In the same vein the Finnish government has decided that it will offer University level education to any foreigner who is willing to come to live in Finland without having to pay for any tuition fees. How can it be stealing if you're just accept something that is being given for free? Also wouldn't it extremely stupid to get into 100's of thousands into debt for something that can be had for free? Are Americans really that allergic to any form of socialism that they'd rather get into a massive debt, on principle, then participate just a little bit in a socialist system?

Simple.

All you have to understand is that Nothing in life is free.

it always costs someone.

Whatever you are taking for "free" is something someone else worked for.

So how do you feel about paying taxes?

Or government workers, whose wages are paid by tax monies?
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Also you don't need to learn the language since most people speak english well enough. The only problem is that most people won't speak to you unless their BAC is above the legal limit so as a side effect you'll probably end developing a small alcohol problem. Unless of course you end up offing yourself out of depression since there is practically no sunlight during the winter period.



. . . or the feeling that you are stealing and just can't live with it.

Its not stealing if the other people are dumb enough to give it away for free.

Say I'd offer you hundred dollars, no strings attached, would you take it? Of course you would, like most other people would also.

In the same vein the Finnish government has decided that it will offer University level education to any foreigner who is willing to come to live in Finland without having to pay for any tuition fees. How can it be stealing if you're just accept something that is being given for free? Also wouldn't it extremely stupid to get into 100's of thousands into debt for something that can be had for free? Are Americans really that allergic to any form of socialism that they'd rather get into a massive debt, on principle, then participate just a little bit in a socialist system?

Simple.

All you have to understand is that Nothing in life is free.

it always costs someone.

Whatever you are taking for "free" is something someone else worked for.

So how do you feel about paying taxes?

Or government workers, whose wages are paid by tax monies?

Both should be reduced to the absolute minimum necessary.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I went to college, studied computer science, and spent a few decades working as a professional geek. I moved to Silicon Valley because that's where 40% of American Venture capital goes. I've also made a few parachute jumps and know how that works.

StoppieJoe

If somebody was generous enough to give me $100,000, I would be able to get my bachelors in computer science and start my skydiving career, bus and all! What do ya say?



Get your non-CS classes out of the way at a community college from which credits transfer for about $3K/year. Do the rest at a state school you can commute to from your parents' house for about $10K/year. That way $40K gets you a degree.

Work on free software projects and be awesome. Take interesting elective courses with projects like compiler construction. Turn that experience into a good summer internship.

Take that to Silicon Valley where a big company can pay you $110-$120K salary, a signing bonus up to $100K, and $100K+ RSU package which vests over 4 years totaling $150K+ per year. You can also do OK (market compensation disregarding equity gain until you get somewhere around the principal engineer level and a startup won't pay you $300K+) at series-A venture funded startups where you're much more likely to stop needing a paycheck (each dime or 0.1% of market cap at $1B is $1M with each $1M after taxes good for about $40K indefinitely) and it's easier to gain experience which qualifies you for more senior positions.

Keep your current standard of living involving room mates with a $3000/month 2-bedroom apartment, invest the legal maximum in tax-advantaged retirement accounts, invest more so you can retire early, and pay for your own skydiving, auto racing, flying, etc. hobbies.

You could also buy a nice double wide trailer in the heart of Silicon Valley - I highly recommend that approach. $1600/month in slot rent and chattel mortgage leaves a lot more room in your budget for other things.

Don't breed - that's very expensive and your children might die of neglect if you get too busy with business working 12-16 hour days.

Forget about how the rest of the USA interprets the American Dream - when 3/2 1500 square foot ranch homes in a nice neighborhood sell for $1.5M you don't want to buy one. Stick to a rental or double wide mobile home.

Forget about that "professional skydiver" thing too. Just smile and nod politely when those guys tell you how they sold plasma and lived on ramen to pay for their share of the chartered helicopter.

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I went to college, studied computer science, and spent a few decades working as a professional geek. I moved to Silicon Valley because that's where 40% of American Venture capital goes. I've also made a few parachute jumps and know how that works.

***If somebody was generous enough to give me $100,000, I would be able to get my bachelors in computer science and start my skydiving career, bus and all! What do ya say?





Work on free software projects and be awesome. Take interesting elective courses with projects like compiler construction. Turn that experience into a good summer internship.

I already work for a startup robotics company as a programmer intern. Robokind Robots, you may have seen us on kick starter recently. So I am already getting good programming experience before I have even started college.
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Take that to Silicon Valley


But, But, But....its a California....

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Keep your current standard of living involving room mates with a $3000/month 2-bedroom apartment and pay for your own skydiving, auto racing, flying, etc. hobbies.


I really want to build a school bus to live in for a while. That will only cost me $50k at most. That would be cheaper than renting and I am not going to be able to stay at my parents house for more than the next year.
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Forget about that "professional skydiver" thing too. Just smile and nod politely when those guys tell you how they sold plasma and lived on ramen to pay for their share of the chartered helicopter.


I am going to be a programmer, an instructor/videographer/Part Time DZ Rat, and Ill be in coffee for a while too.
Carpe Diem, Even if it kills me -- "Dead Poet's Society"

"Are you getting into trouble over there?" --- "Nothing that I'm going to admit to!"
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***I went to college, studied computer science, and spent a few decades working as a professional geek. I moved to Silicon Valley because that's where 40% of American Venture capital goes. I've also made a few parachute jumps and know how that works.

***If somebody was generous enough to give me $100,000, I would be able to get my bachelors in computer science and start my skydiving career, bus and all! What do ya say?





Work on free software projects and be awesome. Take interesting elective courses with projects like compiler construction. Turn that experience into a good summer internship.

I already work for a startup robotics company as a programmer intern. Robokind Robots, you may have seen us on kick starter recently. So I am already getting good programming experience before I have even started college.
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Take that to Silicon Valley


But, But, But....its a California....

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Keep your current standard of living involving room mates with a $3000/month 2-bedroom apartment and pay for your own skydiving, auto racing, flying, etc. hobbies.


I really want to build a school bus to live in for a while. That will only cost me $50k at most. That would be cheaper than renting and I am not going to be able to stay at my parents house for more than the next year.
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Forget about that "professional skydiver" thing too. Just smile and nod politely when those guys tell you how they sold plasma and lived on ramen to pay for their share of the chartered helicopter.


I am going to be a programmer, an instructor/videographer/Part Time DZ Rat, and Ill be in coffee for a while too.

Can someone a lot smarter than I tell him how this isn't a great idea?
Always be kinder than you feel.

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Nah... Let him figure it out on his own after he has dumped everything he owns in blood sweat and a lot of tears into that fine living in a DZ ghetto somewhere... livin the dream... and watching CUTAWAY over and over.

Suddenly a few years down the road.. reality will smack him upside the head[:/]

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Nah... Let him figure it out on his own after he has dumped everything he owns in blood sweat and a lot of tears into that fine living in a DZ ghetto somewhere... livin the dream... and watching CUTAWAY over and over.

Suddenly a few years down the road.. reality will smack him upside the head[:/]



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