sfzombie13 324 #26 January 5, 2014 one would only hope, however, it didn't happen that way. needless to say, as a 21 years old soldier just back from war, i was a little disheartened by the chain of command which knew of this affair and didn't do or say anything. shortly after he pcs'd, she went with him and then i found all this out. i was a little perturbed (to say the least), and i was given an article 15 for some bullshit. i was told by jag that i could have my pov license back, my rank and money restored, an inter-theater transfer, and my co and 1sg relieved. i chose the general discharge due to my views on the army at the time. fortunately, i went into the military 7 years later and had a wonderful time as a ssg in a special forces unit. due to my treatment by the nco corps, i was a much better nco because of it._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #27 January 5, 2014 I'm glad that you were able to return to the military and have a good experience. I suppose you're also lucky to be rid of wife #1 without children or other long-term issues. Nevertheless, this is an example of some of the most damaging behavior possible within the military. Sometimes people in command have to order subordinates to perform duties that could result in their death. What could be more damaging to morale than the suspicion that you are being given orders to get you out of the way, so the senior officer can have a shot at your wife? I can't imaging anything more corrupting to the trust that has to exist for the military to be able to function. It's pretty shocking that higher-ups would be so shortsighted as to let that kind of thing go. Everyone who looked the other way should have been hung by their testicles. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #28 January 5, 2014 you know, after we were done in the desert (desert storm), they were asking for volunteers to stay and ship the vehicles back. this prick actually tried to get me to volunteer. and she actually took the children with her when she left the country. i didn't see them again for 8 or 9 years. but my daughter came to live with me when she turned 16 and we have a wonderful relationship now. i am a grandpa and she has another on the way. my son has one also but i haven't talked to or seen him in 14 years. what can you do? and in true karma form, he was a recruiter after leaving germany, but about 2 years into his tour, he had a wreck and flipped his car while drinking and has been in a wheelchair ever since._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #29 January 5, 2014 jimmytavino If those involved are grown ups... AND unless you Know all the details about their relationship and the behavior of BOTH parties..... I would leave this rock Unturned..... and respectfully suggest that you do NOt even get involved... it's not any of your business......Let someone ELSE drop the bomb and stand back... Boyfriend / Girlfriend relationships have all sorts of dynamics. many MANY of them don't last, for allll sorts of reasons. stay clear of all minefields.. imhoNo winners here.......... jmy My thoughts, exactly. NEVER be the messenger. They tend to get shot.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #30 January 6, 2014 I'm sure it's just me. I consider this a reason TO talk to him. The very fact that I don't want to do it indicates that it is the right thing to do. In tough calls, I often figure my first base instinct is selfish and probably wrong. Yes, he may shoot the messenger. I'm willing to take that shot for a friend. I also consider it a lie when you know the truth; know the truth should be told, and; remain silent. Again...just me.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #31 January 6, 2014 davjohnsI'm sure it's just me. I consider this a reason TO talk to him. The very fact that I don't want to do it indicates that it is the right thing to do. In tough calls, I often figure my first base instinct is selfish and probably wrong. Yes, he may shoot the messenger. I'm willing to take that shot for a friend. I also consider it a lie when you know the truth; know the truth should be told, and; remain silent. Again...just me. ^This. How many times is the B/F-Husband the "last to know." And as Lucky noted, my real friends would want me to know that I'm being cheated on. I don't know if I'd give the girl the first chance to tell him or not. It's a huge 'can of worms.' But if I did, I'd seriously cover my own ass with a voice recording of that conversation."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #32 January 6, 2014 JasonNCMy bros girlfriend is cheating. Should I tell him or not? Been here before and it has ruined friendships. Would you want to know or not? JasonNC, does your friend know yet? Just curious.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
