Andy9o8 2 #51 January 14, 2014 LuckyMcSwervy Well, I found the MFers You Tube channel and he already has a snazzy little video up of the fire and the drone action. I saw he credited his wife with taking lots of pictures. And other neighbor gets some photo creds as well. I was talking to her earlier, didn't know they were a couple. She actually crossed the police tape and was taking pictures. You can see the family on the sidewalk by the remains of the house. Wow. Just wow. You're Italian and you're from Jersey. You've got people. Fill in the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #52 January 14, 2014 Andy9o8 ***Well, I found the MFers You Tube channel and he already has a snazzy little video up of the fire and the drone action. I saw he credited his wife with taking lots of pictures. And other neighbor gets some photo creds as well. I was talking to her earlier, didn't know they were a couple. She actually crossed the police tape and was taking pictures. You can see the family on the sidewalk by the remains of the house. Wow. Just wow. You're Italian and you're from Jersey. You've got people. Fill in the rest. That stuff died with my Grandfather. I think that's why most of my relatives were cops. Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #53 January 14, 2014 And you know what? My memory told me he was flying the drone with the fire trucks still there. The video shows me they were the big, loud electric company bucket trucks where the fire trucks were parked but the cops and other emergency services people were still there.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #54 January 15, 2014 Did they say the cause was from a space heater? ABC World News was talking about a fire in Jersey, and it seemed similar to this incident.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #55 January 15, 2014 So...we give the press, emergency responders and the cops a pass. Who then sell their material, or post it publicly. Cops are using FB in real-time these days. How is that different??? What happens in public is just that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #56 January 15, 2014 skymama Did they say the cause was from a space heater? ABC World News was talking about a fire in Jersey, and it seemed similar to this incident. No official cause just yet. Just 20 minutes ago I got a text from one of my girlfriends who is a very good friend of the homeowner's new wife. I asked if they could say an official cause yet and she said no. There was a big fire in Camden, NJ yesterday. That may be space heater related. I saw it on the news last night IIRC.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #57 January 15, 2014 normiss So...we give the press, emergency responders and the cops a pass. Who then sell their material, or post it publicly. Cops are using FB in real-time these days. How is that different??? What happens in public is just that. I'm happy the cops didn't put together a 2:14 video of the destruction with some snazzy Pink Flyod music and picture/video fade outs and other graphics. FWIW, I think I just may be too close to the situation to be fair. I'm a news whore. I love news. All news, all the time. I just don't like it on my quiet little street in the middle of the blueberry fields. I think neighbors should protect neighbors (except the assholes directly across the street from me but that's another story ).Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #58 January 15, 2014 What sort of space heaters are the norm there? I always hated the coil type radiant heater and kerosene (blech!) by far as the worst! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #59 January 15, 2014 normissWhat sort of space heaters are the norm there? I always hated the coil type radiant heater and kerosene (blech!) by far as the worst! I have no idea. I have a little fan electric one for under my work desk in my office. Years ago, in my old house when I was married, we had a kerosene heater before the old, drafty windows were replaced to take the chill out of the house in a family room. I don't even know if they make them or use them any longer. I have a gas fireplace with a remote control so I use that for a quick fix downstairs.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #60 January 15, 2014 LuckyMcSwervyETA: He also has a shitload of vids of him flying this thing all around the neighborhood. How's the nude sun-bathing going?I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #61 January 15, 2014 davjohns***ETA: He also has a shitload of vids of him flying this thing all around the neighborhood. How's the nude sun-bathing going? It's not going to happen this year, that's for sure. Funny enough, none of that happened this year (when his videos posted started - who knows when he really started) because I didn't open the pool because I went away for a long time over the summer and didn't want to be exposed to the liability.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #62 January 15, 2014 A stark example of the folly of voluteer fire departments and a lack of residentail sprinkler systems. I was a carreer firefighter for 26 years. The volunteers are obsolete and no one will do a thing about it. Your best line of defense against a home fire is a residentail sprinkler system, yet almost no one will spring for the extra $$$ to put one in.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #63 January 15, 2014 Tink1717A stark example of the folly of voluteer fire departments and a lack of residentail sprinkler systems. I was a carreer firefighter for 26 years. The volunteers are obsolete and no one will do a thing about it. Your best line of defense against a home fire is a residentail sprinkler system, yet almost no one will spring for the extra $$$ to put one in. Funny you say that. When this house was being built I inquired about having them installed and was told it wasn't in the original approval plans for all of the house models/elevations and it would have to go back before council for review/approval. My Dad told me to have them installed but I didn't listen since it was going to extend the construction by months, I never followed through with it. I was also told I was the only person in the 90 house development that asked out an interior fire suppression system, which I found surprising. Just last week I heard something on the news that New Jersey is thinking about requiring sprinklers in all new residential construction. I was on the fence with "requiring" but after the other day, I'm changing my tune.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 70 #64 January 15, 2014 I keep all the internal doors closed at night and there are extinguishers in the master bedroom, the connecting hall, living room and kitchen (There's also a large fire blanket in the kitchen and the hall). There are phones in both bedrooms and the living room. If the smoke alarm goes off, I check the bedroom door with the back of my hand. If it's hot then we're sitting tight or going out of the window - if it's not then we're going out of the front door. We practice the evacuation routes at least once a month and the smoke alarms are cleaned (vacuum cleaner) and tested once a week.Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #65 January 15, 2014 I think the most heartstopping way to wake up is the fire alarm at 3am. Those milliseconds before you realize it's the low battery signal are the worst seconds in my life. I still get up and will run down the stairs with shaky legs from being scared and search my house from top to basement. Logic tells me if it was a fire they all would start going off, not just one beeping sporadically but I still must check. I have 2 separate smoke/carbon monoxide set ups. One is hard wired from the original construction (they're the suckers that beep in the middle of the night) and the other are wireless sensors that transmit with the security system. They send low battery signals to the control panel.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #66 January 15, 2014 Well, the house next door burned. Intuitively, that would suggest the odds of another house in the neighborhood burning are now astronomically low. (Don't jump on the bad logic. I know much more about probability theory than average.) But if you ever saw, "The World According to Garp", you will recall the scene where he and his wife had just finished touring a house they were considering buying. A plane flew into the house as they stood on the street. Garp turned to the agent and declared, "We'll take it! What are the odds anything bad could ever happen to this house again!" Seriously, I'm not sure a cost/benefit analysis would justify a sprinkler system in the average residence. A fire-proof safe for cash, important documents, and valuables coupled with insurance is probably all the risks justify for most people. Of course, walking through the house with a video recorder and documenting your stuff and serial numbers for an insurance claim may be a good use of your time. Just make sure you update it about annually and have the file in the safe, with someone else, or on the net. It really doesn't take long.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #67 January 15, 2014 normissSo...we give the press, emergency responders and the cops a pass. Who then sell their material, or post it publicly. Cops are using FB in real-time these days. How is that different??? What happens in public is just that. Eh, it's a fine point, I guess. It all has to do with the level of obnoxiousness, I suppose. The press has a job to do, and sometimes they have to be obnoxious about it. But this guy was just a douche-nozzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #68 January 15, 2014 I cannot disagree with that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #69 January 15, 2014 LuckyMcSwervy Sometimes it's hard for me to wrap my head around that because emotion sometimes trumps logic in my mind. I think that is the case with most women.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #70 January 16, 2014 turtlespeed *** Sometimes it's hard for me to wrap my head around that because emotion sometimes trumps logic in my mind. I think that is the case with most women. I don't think so. I think I've just been extra sensitive lately. Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #71 January 16, 2014 davjohns Well, the house next door burned. Intuitively, that would suggest the odds of another house in the neighborhood burning are now astronomically low. (Don't jump on the bad logic. I know much more about probability theory than average.) But if you ever saw, "The World According to Garp", you will recall the scene where he and his wife had just finished touring a house they were considering buying. A plane flew into the house as they stood on the street. Garp turned to the agent and declared, "We'll take it! What are the odds anything bad could ever happen to this house again!" Seriously, I'm not sure a cost/benefit analysis would justify a sprinkler system in the average residence. A fire-proof safe for cash, important documents, and valuables coupled with insurance is probably all the risks justify for most people. Of course, walking through the house with a video recorder and documenting your stuff and serial numbers for an insurance claim may be a good use of your time. Just make sure you update it about annually and have the file in the safe, with someone else, or on the net. It really doesn't take long. That's not what I remember about that movie.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #72 January 16, 2014 turtlespeed *** But if you ever saw, "The World According to Garp", you will recall the scene where he and his wife had just finished touring a house they were considering buying. A plane flew into the house as they stood on the street. Garp turned to the agent and declared, "We'll take it! What are the odds anything bad could ever happen to this house again!" That's not what I remember about that movie.Me, either. [/chomp!]lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #73 January 16, 2014 The other memorable moment in the movie...in a VW bug as I recall.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
