Amazon 7 #1 March 23, 2014 It has been a VERY wet season here even for the area. Oso is a small town in Washington and this landslide has really hit the area hard. The coming flood downstream when the Stilly unblocks itself will also effect a lot of people downstream. http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?q=OSO%20wa&mkt=en&FORM=BYLH1 http://www.king5.com/news/local/Three-dead-18-missing-after-landslide-near-Oso-251782971.html Eighteen people remained unaccounted for after a massive landslide slammed into 16 homes near Oso. As family members wait for word on their missing loved ones, Gov. Jay Inslee assured them that there is a full scale rescue effort ongoing. Inslee flew over the site of the devastation on Sunday afternoon and said at an afternoon press conference that the slide is "10 times more devastating" when you see it in person. Inslee said there is a full scale, aggressive rescue effort ongoing. “Every human possibility is being explored to rescue people,” he said. The Governor declared a state of emergency and late Saturday nigth and on Sunday said he is talking with FEMA about a federal disaster declaration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 March 23, 2014 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=648770805191255&set=vb.114431401958534&type=2&theater 4 Dead now https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=648922855176050&set=a.121893224545685.20775.114431401958534&type=1&theater Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #3 March 24, 2014 Hi AJ Go figure the weather was so nice yesterday, then this. So far 4 dead and more than a dozen missing. The stories of the folks missing is real sad, a plumber and his helper were replacing a hot water tank, wrong place at the wrong timeGrandpa went to store to pick up some groceries, came back and everyone was goneTuesday its supposed to start raining off and on for another week. No telling whats going to happen to the river. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #4 March 24, 2014 Yikes! Keeping good thoughts and prayers for those involved.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 March 24, 2014 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=648477465220589&set=a.121893224545685.20775.114431401958534&type=1&theater Look at the source area... looks like glacial till from the glaciers that withdrew up the valley to the mountains above Darrington... soak all that stuff like it has and away it goes. Those are 60 to 100' trees and that is basically sand and gravel in that wall.. not rock. I have received over 20" of rain here at my house in the foothills not far from where this happened. I had to cross the Stilly ( Stillaguamish River) at Arlington on my way to our little DZ with the Porter at Mt Vernon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #6 March 24, 2014 Hi AJ Great pic, looks like a vertical face. I hope we have a geologist on here that can explain what we're looking at. The trees left at the middle of the top of the picture look like their young, the surrounding tree's are tall but small dia. It will be interesting to find out the history of the logging activities in the area. But all that doesn't mean squat right now, I'm seeing lots of pain for the families and loved ones that are lost. A reminder to live every day like it's our last.One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 March 25, 2014 Death toll is up to 14 confirmed.. with up to 108 missing as of this morning. The slide happened in an area that slid about 8 years ago and was replanted. If you look at that area there are lots of smaller slides. It is a glacial trace where the glacier retreated up to the mountains in the North Cascades to the East. Look at this map and see how many crescent shaped features you can find along the Stillaguamish River.. http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?cp=48.25222~-121.6039&where1=Darrington&FORM=INFOCM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #8 March 25, 2014 Amazon Death toll is up to 14 confirmed.. with up to 108 missing as of this morning. We can only hope that the list of MIA's drops significantly due to duplication. Never thought a slide could be this extensive. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 March 25, 2014 Krip ***Death toll is up to 14 confirmed.. with up to 108 missing as of this morning. We can only hope that the list of MIA's drops significantly due to duplication. Never thought a slide could be this extensive. Not the first time that a village or town has been obliterated from a map. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #10 March 25, 2014 Amazon Not the first time that a village or town has been obliterated from a map. 30 years ago the town of Thistle, Utah was flooded by a mudslide downstream. There's now a big mud dam and a new lake. The Earth is constantly changing on the geologic scale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thistle,_Utah This Oso thing is tragic. Thanks for posting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug_Davis 0 #11 March 25, 2014 Amazon The slide happened in an area that slid about 8 years ago and was replanted. Yep. If you look on Google Maps or Google Earth you can still see the remnants. Look at the sand line and downed trees right across the river from the neighborhood on Steelhead Drive. Its the same hill that just let go. https://www.google.com/maps/place/31009+Steelhead+Dr/@48.278042,-121.8464,758m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x5485374eb0dcce51:0x47b3d9f25bd560f2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 March 25, 2014 KripHi AJ Great pic, looks like a vertical face. I hope we have a geologist on here that can explain what we're looking at. The trees left at the middle of the top of the picture look like their young, the surrounding tree's are tall but small dia. It will be interesting to find out the history of the logging activities in the area. But all that doesn't mean squat right now, I'm seeing lots of pain for the families and loved ones that are lost. A reminder to live every day like it's our last. Got some geology for ya http://www.king5.com/news/breaker1/video/Anatomy-of-a-slide-252082351.html The area has seen large slides before. One in 2006 blocked the Stilliguamish River, forcing it through the very neighborhood wiped out by the current slide. Another slide hit in 1969. The Washington State Department of Transportation has found itself carrying out various projects to try and stabilize State Highway 530, now buried by the slide. The so-called scarp - the whitish gouge in the face of the mountain now a cliff - is about 1,500 feet wide by 600 feet tall. There is concern for more tension cracks that could allow more debris to fall. Professor Montgomery says the slide carries many of the hallmarks of a so-called "rotational slide," meaning that the land literally turns on itself. Often times as the support part of a hill slides down, the toe or the foot of the slide area goes up. Only this time the toe went out, driving the soggy mess forward into the populated area. If that's how it worked, what was the hill made up of? Pretty much the leftovers from the last ice age, things like sand and silt, clay and gravel - not much rock. "It's an amalgam of different kinds of glacial units piled on each other, but none of which are terribly strong," said Montgomery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 March 25, 2014 This sucks. Got me remembering La Conchita, CA. Got hit with two large mudslides in ten years. But it's the geology. Soft soil, water and slopes mean increased probability that it's coming down. It's pretty amazing that this event may have killed more people than Mt. St. Helens. My thoughts to all affected. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 March 26, 2014 Breaking... no rescues, 2 bodies recovered, 8 more bodies identified in the mud but not recovered yet. 14 recovered to yesterday.... now the new announcement.. 24 dead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #15 March 26, 2014 It's probably a foregone conclusion by now that there's going to be at least 180 dead from this. Way more than Mount St. Helens claimed in her 1980s' eruption. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 March 26, 2014 BillyVance It's probably a foregone conclusion by now that there's going to be at least 180 dead from this. Way more than Mount St. Helens claimed in her 1980s' eruption. It was a gorgeous sunny Saturday in Washington when it hit. It is a popular recreational area so even though there are a lot of seasonal cabins.. I would not be surprised if a bunch of people were visiting their cabins. I do not think that all the missing will ever be found.. at least in this millennium since this thing is a mile wide and a mile long mudslide that is up to 40 feet deep in some areas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #17 March 26, 2014 The news on TV did mention that nearly 50 structures were obliterated."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 March 26, 2014 BillyVance The news on TV did mention that nearly 50 structures were obliterated. There are also people who had campers on lots there by the river. There were people driving along the roads just passing thru on WA 530. It is a popular area and I have driven that road hundreds of times. I use it as a shortcut to WA Hwy 20 to head up into the North Cascades National Park. When I was younger and in better shape I used to head up a couple of the rivers there at Darrington to backpack into the high country. A lot of people still do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #19 March 26, 2014 BillyVance It's probably a foregone conclusion by now that there's going to be at least 180 dead from this. Way more than Mount St. Helens claimed in her 1980s' eruption. Before St Helens blew its top, there was plenty of warning. So most of the folks got out of dodge. This slide in the OSO area was a surprise to a lot of people. After weeks of rain in was a beautiful sunny day, a contributing factor was that it happened at 11 AM on a Saturday. If it had happened during the week a lot of people would have been at work or school, so the death toll would have been a lot lower. Still traumatic for the survivors but their would have been a lot more of them. Wrong place at the wrong timeOf course after the grieving there will be plenty of time for the I told you so folks, and the lawyers. The folks that live in that area are a hardy bunch not sure how they will take to the some suits moving in, trying to help make them whole. Its not going to bring back their loved ones.One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,466 #20 March 26, 2014 Hi Jeanne, A little update: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/us/mudslide-boy-rescued/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 March 26, 2014 Aerial photos: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/03/at-least-14-dead-in-washington-state-mudslide/100704/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 March 27, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi Jeanne, A little update: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/us/mudslide-boy-rescued/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 JerryBaumchen Yeah that was the little guy on Day 1.. Saturday when the very first responders showed up including Snoho Heli Rescue... They found a bunch of people alive in the first few hours. All the first responders rocked it.. no matter how stunned everyone is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug_Davis 0 #23 March 27, 2014 News reports yesterday out of Washington by local reporters stated that 8 years ago, after the last slide on the very same hill, when the reporters showed up to do their live reports from the scene there were contractors building houses that very day in the neighborhood that was buried. A whole lot of blame to go around. From the county who issued the building permits at that site, to the contractors and real estate agents who sold homes at that location. Lots of people questioning if there was full disclosure. Kinda like the statements from the governor. First statement he said there was no indication that area was unstable. 24 hours later, he changed his tune. http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023218573_mudslidewarningsxml.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #24 March 27, 2014 Hi Doug First I heard about he rush to build but I don't doubt it If you look at some of the aerial maps you can see where there is a larger area already sub platted for a lot more houses. The downturn in the housing market probably saved some livesWho's telling the truth about full disclosure? That's one of the good things about the real estate industry. If the homeowners were told about the risk of slide mountain doing what it did, "sometime in the future" it should be in their paper work. Based on my past employment with the Corps any repairs after the previous slide that were made were done on a emergency basis. Not the Corps fault its the way they are funded and their scope of work for emergency flooding. In the PNW they get called out every year for flooding on the same rivers. Either way still won't bring back one lost soul. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 March 31, 2014 https://www.facebook.com/SkagitBreaking/photos/a.1405915709621487.1073741837.1393811897498535/1473290209550703/?type=1&theater The official count is at 21 fatalities, 15 that have been identified and six that are awaiting identification. Four more found on Sunday are not included in the 21. If you look at how mangled the cars and homes were I think you might see the problem with identifications Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
