efs4ever 3 #1 October 24, 2004 I was just tossing this around with my rigger. I've got a mint condition ParaCommander in a conventional rig. B4 and belly wart is not my favorite configuration, so I was wondering if i could just put the PC on tandem risers and stick it into my tandem rig. Seems doable. Could probably use the hot dog type pilot chute inside the container and close it up with the golf ball pin. (Sigma) The only thing I'm concerned about is the long closing loop. Of course I wouldn't want someone picking up my rig and strapping on a rider Anyone? Bill, don't shit a brick on this one!! Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 October 24, 2004 A Comp PC will fit in something about the size of a J5-J7 In Javelin sizing. I'd think that its going to be a little small to pack into a Sigma. I jumped one last year in a piggyback with a sleeve and a BOC, thats the way to go in my opinion.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #3 October 24, 2004 Don't do it! I'm sure you had plenty of soft stand-ups with PC's when we were young, I did too, but they weren't all soft . But when I see young guys that don't weigh much pound in fast when they do a nostalgia jump, I don't want that kind of trip down memory lane, thank you. Somebody else will want to do it, just watch them and enjoy it vicariously, you'll still get a kick out of it. Save yourself - just don't do it. (I really am serious) People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #4 October 24, 2004 QuoteDon't do it! I'm sure you had plenty of soft stand-ups with PC's when we were young, I did too, but they weren't all soft . But when I see young guys that don't weigh much pound in fast when they do a nostalgia jump, I don't want that kind of trip down memory lane, thank you. Somebody else will want to do it, just watch them and enjoy it vicariously, you'll still get a kick out of it. Save yourself - just don't do it. (I really am serious) Hey, I jumped it six times last year at 270+ exit weight. No problem. Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 October 24, 2004 What, did you finally talk Kim Fuller out of his very crisp PC? Forgive me for the question, but is it legal to use a PC in a RWS tandem, would it be considered a demo jump with a tandem system?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #6 October 24, 2004 QuoteWhat, did you finally talk Kim Fuller out of his very crisp PC? Forgive me for the question, but is it legal to use a PC in a RWS tandem, would it be considered a demo jump with a tandem system? Nope. I met with Kim and saw his stuff. Mine is crisp too. When I went to Granbury to jump it the wind prevented it. Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #7 October 24, 2004 QuoteHey, I jumped it six times last year at 270+ exit weight. No problem. You foolish person, why do you tempt fate so? Seriously, stop while you're in one piece! Or at least just let others try to bust themselves up. 270 lbs! The speed at which I saw one land recently at 100 pound less than that was scary. You must have a heck of a PLF. I'm not going there again on purpose, some things are better left in the past, or at least done with a Jumbo-28 ft (you need extra Jumbo PC)People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #8 October 24, 2004 QuoteWhat, did you finally talk Kim Fuller out of his very crisp PC? Forgive me for the question, but is it legal to use a PC in a RWS tandem, would it be considered a demo jump with a tandem system? Uh, well, I'm not taking a passenger.Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 October 24, 2004 My understanding was that any jump involving the tandem system, passenger or not, is considered a tandem jump. I'm only asking because I'm trying to clarify my understanding.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #10 October 24, 2004 Quote270 lbs! Hey, this shit is HEAVY. I don't weigh that much, although I was pushing 238 at the time. Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #11 October 24, 2004 i'd say just get a realy big sport rig, something like a realy big student rig...... as for jumping a conventional rig with a belly wart.. heck it's half the fun of doing it.. wheni jump my paracomander i always get the wierdest looks from people after they hear i'm gona go freefly in it.....i'mnot worried though.. got 3 pins on my back and 2 on my chest.........and it makes for someintersting video........... i'm about 210 out the door with my rig with the paracomander in it..... and i'm jumping at 4500 msl right now... almost stood up the last jump.. and none of them have been bone jarring.... just a nice plf and i'm up daiseychiainng the lines.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #12 October 24, 2004 At least be wise enough to not use tiny, round reserves, especially if they mount low on the harness. Their descent rate is .... well it hurts! Not worth it.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrochute 2 #13 October 24, 2004 .i think hes reffering to the piggyback rig(single harness dual parachute 1 person) as a tandem rig.it used to be a common term back in the day.i dont think he is talking about tandem rig in todays sense( dual harness ,dual parachute,2 people strapped together) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 October 24, 2004 No, by mentioning the golf ball and stuff he's referning to putting it into his RWS Sigma tandem container.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #15 October 24, 2004 Quote Forgive me for the question, but is it legal to use a PC in a RWS tandem, would it be considered a demo jump with a tandem system? QuoteInteresting question... Is it an actual tandem rig if the student harness isn't utilized? We use a tandem rig to carry our oversize flag on demos, as do a couple of other demo teams... Russell...I've got a 'Mini-Hawk" that I put my Pap in a few times... I'd offer it to ya to use..but it's pretty clean, and that PIC of your PLF.... well you know.. ....We have a mutual friend at LSPC that has a hog it would fit in... round reserve, but at least not a WART! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #16 October 24, 2004 QuoteHey, I jumped it six times last year at 270+ exit weight. No problem. The picture looks like someone threw you off the back of a speeding pick up truck. I know why we jumped that shit 20+ years ago, no choice. I can't understand why any one would want to jump it today. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #17 October 25, 2004 I have my MK-1 in a wonderhog S/N 944 dom 1977. packed in a d-bag with hand deploy work great. My buddy has a 27ft rus. in a wonderhog too. So I know they will fit in the older sport piggy backs.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #18 October 26, 2004 Wear all the protection you can. Knee pads and good footwear. Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
