flyer299 0 #1 October 20, 2004 I am about to place an order for a new Wings Container... Got all the details worked out. I just have not decided if I am going to get Stainless or not. Seems to be a lot of extra money.... What are the reasons it is worth the money? Any thoughs on Delux or Standard? Thanks Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #2 October 20, 2004 Stainless steel thread I started not even a month ago... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1252495;search_string=stainless%20steel%20;#1252495 fwiw, I ended up ordering it. -A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #3 October 21, 2004 it looks pretty.... What are you looking for in your container? Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyer299 0 #4 October 21, 2004 Well, I started off looking for the best price possible on getting me a second rig... Since I've added in Tie Dye, plus many other options... Now I am just trying to salavage my Checking Account / Credit Cards. My current rig does not have Stainless, and I've never noticed until I looked at the order form and went... HMMMM.... What are your thoughts on Standard Stainless vs. Delux? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuffit 0 #5 October 21, 2004 its all about the looks (unless you routinely dip your rig in saltwater) Another problem is that on some rigs, the stainless on the leg straps does not grip very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 October 21, 2004 QuoteWhat are your thoughts on Standard Stainless vs. Delux? On a Wings the Standard stainless means only the three rings are stainless, Deluxe means all the hardware. If you're gonna spend the money to look bling bling, go all the way. Since you're looking at stainless, what about the several manufacturers than include it in the Base Price. The Icon has a bunch of nice options and stainless all rolled into one price.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #7 October 21, 2004 Don't think for a minute that Stainless Steel can't corrode. It is termed corrosion resistant steel. I find it amazing that so many are willing to pay so much for it. I would like to hear from a mfg that is willing to defend the typical cost for the option. Seems like asking to be raped to me.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #8 October 21, 2004 Have you arrived at your destination canopy size? If you are where you want to be, canopy size-wise, you are more likely to be keeping this rig for a long time. That being the case, spring for the bling. My container will hold a 150 or 135 main, and I ain't going smaller than that. If you are going to go smaller a couple sizes, then don't invest in a bunch of options you want, but the next buyer may not be interested in. SoCal is right about there being competitors for your business. An advantage to Wings is their commitment to customer service. Check with folks at your DZ abou their rigs, and when considering buying any rig, make sure the manufacturer builds a great product that is right the first time, and when it isn't makes it right ASAP and with a smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 October 21, 2004 QuoteI would like to hear from a mfg that is willing to defend the typical cost for the option. Seems like asking to be raped to me. Formerly working for a manufacturer, and being in the industry for a *few* years, I can tell you that the cost from the suppliers is that much higher. No one is really getting rich from Stainless upgrades. And if you think producing stainless hardware, or the raw stainless it's manufactured from is cheep, you're ill informed. It looks nice. It is FAR more rust resistant that any of the other options. Rust really isn't a big problem in this business. Saying it's rust resistant is like saying an armored car is bullet resistant.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #10 October 21, 2004 >What are the reasons it is worth the money? It looks nice. If you want the hardware to look shiny get it. Not really any functional difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #11 October 22, 2004 QuoteFormerly working for a manufacturer, and being in the industry for a *few* years, I can tell you that the cost from the suppliers is that much higher. No one is really getting rich from Stainless upgrades. Thanks for the answer. I am very surprised, but glad to hear that the price is not all profit by the rig mfg.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyer299 0 #12 October 22, 2004 Thanks for the input... I think I am just going to Flip a coin ;) I just don't know... I'm just excited to get a new rig! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #13 December 22, 2004 QuoteOn a Wings the Standard stainless means only the three rings are stainless, Deluxe means all the hardware. If you're gonna spend the money to look bling bling, go all the way. Since I just placed an order with Sunrise, I thought I would mention what Stainless Standard and Deluxe means so if someone does a search, they can have this new info Stainless Standard - everything stainless except for PDF legstrap adapter - you get a normal adapter Deluxe - PDF legstrap adapter is stainless as well. Bottom line is that everything, besides the adapter, is stainless, for either Standard or Deluxe.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterk 0 #14 December 22, 2004 You have got to be kidding me that they aren't making a bunch of money with the stainless... Its all good that they do, but how can the sometimes $200 be justified? Hardware Main triple ring (444) ea Non SS $3.27 SS $9.17 Chest strap 101 ea Non SS $.99 SS $1.99 Riser rings ea Non SS $1.80/1.18 SS $5.27/4.05--------------- Peter BASE - The Ultimate Victimless Crime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #15 December 22, 2004 Are those prices from Para-Gear or what? Must be all the trouble of tracking what hardware to put on what rig that drives up the price of the option.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterk 0 #16 December 22, 2004 How? You take the hardware that you need, stainless or not, and put them into the box/bin that all the other parts go into while they are waiting to get put together. I think its great that they have determined the price that keep profits maximized, but it shows how relatively little the stainless adds to the cost of materials when some companies offer it as standard, and still maintain extremely competitive prices...--------------- Peter BASE - The Ultimate Victimless Crime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #17 December 22, 2004 QuoteOn a Wings the Standard stainless means only the three rings are stainless, Deluxe means all the hardware. If you're gonna spend the money to look bling bling, go all the way. Actually, standard means everything is stainless but the friction adapters on the legstraps, and I heard that stainless friction adapters have a tendency to slip . . . hence, I got the standard, and it still looks damn sharp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #18 December 23, 2004 I was being sarcastic. Where did you get the prices you quote?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterk 0 #19 December 23, 2004 Dj-associates--------------- Peter BASE - The Ultimate Victimless Crime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #20 December 23, 2004 Stainless prices Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #21 December 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteI would like to hear from a mfg that is willing to defend the typical cost for the option. Seems like asking to be raped to me. Formerly working for a manufacturer, and being in the industry for a *few* years, I can tell you that the cost from the suppliers is that much higher. No one is really getting rich from Stainless upgrades. And if you think producing stainless hardware, or the raw stainless it's manufactured from is cheep, you're ill informed.Quote Anything to add? At least from the available prices shown on the DJ associates site, it seems like a HUGE markup to me. It must be a large part of their overall profit.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropzonefool 0 #22 December 23, 2004 I have a buddy who landed in a swoop ditch, added to that he did not take care of his gear. Often left the main unpacked in his truck with the window down sometimes it would start raining. After landing in the swoop ditch he left his rig in the packing area for severial days expecting the rigger to do his thingy. He did not. When I looked at the rig the mud was caked on, the contianer had a stentch to it, then I noticed his rusty abrasive three rings had actualy started cutting throug the part of the risers that houses the smaller ring. I called him and advised him to ground the risers. He did not have stainless rings on the risers. Just a though, maybe off subject, J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #23 December 23, 2004 Gawd forbid that someone who has spent 30 to 40 thousnad dolars on equipment, 25 thousand on the TSO process, pays payrolls of many thousnads of dollars a week, and stocks 10's of thousansands of dollars in inventory, make a profit. Geeezz.... Wings is one of the cheepest containers avaliable and you guys are beating them up about their profit on Stainless?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #24 December 23, 2004 I gladly paided for my stainless on my Wings. Companies can't stay afloat if they don't make some money and with the specialized nature of our sport, I expect things to be a little more expensive.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #25 December 23, 2004 QuoteGawd forbid that someone who has spent 30 to 40 thousnad dolars on equipment, 25 thousand on the TSO process, pays payrolls of many thousnads of dollars a week, and stocks 10's of thousansands of dollars in inventory, make a profit. Geeezz.... Wings is one of the cheepest containers avaliable and you guys are beating them up about their profit on Stainless? And rightly so. Regardless of what their overheads maybe, the capital outlay for a container, is for MOST people a very expensive proposition, being concerned about value for money is something that I personally take seriouslyYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
dropzonefool 0 #22 December 23, 2004 I have a buddy who landed in a swoop ditch, added to that he did not take care of his gear. Often left the main unpacked in his truck with the window down sometimes it would start raining. After landing in the swoop ditch he left his rig in the packing area for severial days expecting the rigger to do his thingy. He did not. When I looked at the rig the mud was caked on, the contianer had a stentch to it, then I noticed his rusty abrasive three rings had actualy started cutting throug the part of the risers that houses the smaller ring. I called him and advised him to ground the risers. He did not have stainless rings on the risers. Just a though, maybe off subject, J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #23 December 23, 2004 Gawd forbid that someone who has spent 30 to 40 thousnad dolars on equipment, 25 thousand on the TSO process, pays payrolls of many thousnads of dollars a week, and stocks 10's of thousansands of dollars in inventory, make a profit. Geeezz.... Wings is one of the cheepest containers avaliable and you guys are beating them up about their profit on Stainless?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #24 December 23, 2004 I gladly paided for my stainless on my Wings. Companies can't stay afloat if they don't make some money and with the specialized nature of our sport, I expect things to be a little more expensive.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #25 December 23, 2004 QuoteGawd forbid that someone who has spent 30 to 40 thousnad dolars on equipment, 25 thousand on the TSO process, pays payrolls of many thousnads of dollars a week, and stocks 10's of thousansands of dollars in inventory, make a profit. Geeezz.... Wings is one of the cheepest containers avaliable and you guys are beating them up about their profit on Stainless? And rightly so. Regardless of what their overheads maybe, the capital outlay for a container, is for MOST people a very expensive proposition, being concerned about value for money is something that I personally take seriouslyYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
