skyhighkiy 0 #1 October 17, 2004 I have the opportunity to pick up a pilot w/ less than 40 jumps on it for 1000 dollars, no shipping fees. I have about 200 bucks in reserve and barely any income. (college student) How often does one come by a deal like this, and is this worth me scrambling for cash and selling stuff for? (keeping in mind that my season ends in 3 weeks) BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #2 October 17, 2004 Probably not. You can likely get more value for your student bucks by buying cheaper gear with more jumps on it. Make a couple of hundred jumps on it, sell it for close to what you paid for it. By then, you may want a different canopy type or size, anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #3 October 17, 2004 My other option is spending the money to reline my (600 jumps) sabre...a friend says he can sell it for about 500 to 600 out of his country hmm....given that info, is that still your advice? (not trying to provoke an answer either way, just asking now that you have all the variables) thx for the advice though, I see your point....*takes in to consideration* BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 October 17, 2004 You've got a good canopy that only needs a reline? Save that little bit of money you have, get a reline and use the rest of the mony on coach jumps, jumps in general or even better, school related things.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #5 October 17, 2004 QuoteMy other option is spending the money to reline my (600 jumps) sabre...a friend says he can sell it for about 500 to 600 out of his country Honestly if your struggling for money a $225 reling on a 600 jump sabre is a MUCH BETTER VALUE. the 600 jumps is just breaking in the Sabre and it will last a good number of years longer. Besides if your profile is correct with less then 100 jumps going to a Lightly Tapered (semi eliptical) it will be much sportier even at the same size... I suggest that IMHO you get a re-line and make at least a couple of hundred more jumps on the Sabre. Cost wise if you figure the reline cost and think of it as $1 a jump on that canopy until you get it "Paid" off, you have more then saved for the cost of the reline over that number of jumps. You will have a good deal more experience and be in a better position to look at a different canopy! Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #6 October 17, 2004 I just paid $1000 for a brand new Pilot 150 (someone didn't want theirs) and I considered it a good value - I needed a canopy for my Birdman rig. If I were you I would decide what sort of canopy I really wanted/needed. If the Sabre will make you happy, lands you well etc, then it's probably a better idea to keep it and do the reline. If the Sabre is in bad shape, or the Pilot is a better size for you, it might be worth considering. $1000 for a Pilot with 40 jumps on it is a reasonably good deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #7 October 17, 2004 This past spring I got my saber re-lined and what a difference that made. Spend the money on a re-line.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #8 October 18, 2004 thx for the advice guys, it's been really really helpful. a prob I've been having is getting slammed (because of my lines...hopefully) and am fairly sure I had a bit of a problem w/ a disk in my spine (self-diagnosis is low-level herniated)pain has since, mostly gone away. anyway, I think I'm going to get a reline and if I keep getting slammed, sell it off, thx for the replies BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 October 18, 2004 If you do a search, you'll also find discussions about pocket sliders for old Sabres to "fix" the slammers. You should ask your rigger out that as well as talking to PD about it when you send it in for a reline.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #10 October 18, 2004 QuoteIf you do a search, you'll also find discussions about pocket sliders for old Sabres to "fix" the slammers. You should ask your rigger out that as well as talking to PD about it when you send it in for a reline. I had a pocket slider on a Sabre I used to own and I think it was the reason I had such sweet openings. Look into it if your having problems, they are easy to install. There are some other tricks on the pack that may help as well... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #11 October 18, 2004 thx, yeah, I was talkin to a buddy of mine earlier today and got the same advice, I'll have one put on, as far as packing dif. I've tried rolling all 9 and putting to the middle, rolling the 4 on either side and leaving the middle cell out, and rolling the tail super tight. doesn't really seem to have much of an effect. are there other tips for packing softer openings? (just talking about packing, not not body positions on opening) we won't talk about the time I forgot to quarter my slider on that sucker BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgm458 0 #12 October 18, 2004 I'm in the middle of buying a Saber right now...Got 700 jumps and a fresh reline for $350. I've got a few test jumps in on the canopy and am experiencing the same brisk openings. Nothing that hurts, but it certainly wakes you up. I spoke with a packer about the problem and she recommended to not roll the nose, but to push it elbow deep into the canopy when packing and then rolling the tail super tight. That seems to be doing the trick for me. I also quarter the slider pretty large, out as far as it will go on all four sides. Rolling the nose did absolutely nothing for the opening. dgm-------------------------------------------------- Failure to prepare is preparing to fail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #13 October 18, 2004 thx for the post, tried it forgot to add that one in there. I've tried rolling all for about 20 jumps 4 and 4 for about 10 leaving the nose alone (seems to give softest) about 30 just pushing the nose in the middle about 10 along w/ rolling the tail hella tight thx anyway! BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #14 October 18, 2004 Get the slider mod. Many posters on this forum have testified to the efectiveness.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #15 October 18, 2004 Stuff the nose in, pull the slider out in front and roll the crap out of the tail! If that doesn't do it, put the pocket on the slider and forget it! PD will not recommend that mod for whatever reason but it WILL correct the slammers. If the pocket is too large it can cause some extremely long snivels! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #16 October 18, 2004 wait, pull the slider out in front? ....does that mean you don't quarter it? just pushing...explain further, please? BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #17 October 18, 2004 The one thing you can do that will GUARANTEE softer openings on your canopy is to get it relined with DACRON instead of SPECTRA. It will add a small amount of pack volume, but it will tame the openings without a doubt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #18 October 18, 2004 Quotewait, pull the slider out in front? ....does that mean you don't quarter it? just pushing...explain further, please? Quarter the slider then after stuffing the nose, pull the slider out about 3" in front of the nose. Yes it will partially unquarter it but it's the slowing of the air entering the cells that will slow the opening. I got nerve damage in my neck and shoulder from a Sabre slam! The pocket mod is inexpensive and the cure-all for the Sabre though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #19 October 18, 2004 thanks a lot man, I"ll ggive it a whirl BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #20 October 18, 2004 As for the herniated disc, start doing your sit-ups and stretching to pull your spine back into alignment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
