Unparagoned 0 #1 October 9, 2004 Hi, A group of people are getting a bulk order of kits and are getting a good discount on it. I wanted to know what you lot think about it. It will be the new atom container with a 150 electra main, cypress 2 & a reserve. The price is £3000, is that a good price? Is it worth getting it now even if I'm not at the level to jump it. Or would it be worth waiting around a while until the next deal comes along. I'm not in a desperate need for a rig yet but it sounds like it will be worth getting in on it now due to the price¿ P.S. I have briefly talked to an instructor about it and will talk to a few more. I'm more concerned about the price and what you think of the container & electra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #2 October 9, 2004 i dont know about the price, but as for "being at the level to jump it", i'm pretty sure you can order a 170 and get the same price. and the new atoms are pretty cool. the only downside i know of is spare parts being a bit more expensive. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,482 #3 October 9, 2004 Good price. You may wish to take some time to stair-step down according to BillVon's checklist along each step from the 210 in your profile to the 150.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 October 9, 2004 $5300 is about the same price you'd pay for a fully loaded rig here in the US. ~$1600 for a custom container ~$900 for a new PD/Aerodyne Reserve ~1600 for a main ~1300 for a Cypres2 Totals to $5400. You can save some money by getting a different container and a different reserve. If you get a Wings for example you could save $200 or so. If you know anyone coming to the US you can have them bring it back to avoid the VAT or you could schedule a trip to Flordia/California do some jumps, spend some time in the wind tunnel and pick up the rig yourself and take it back for less then the VAT would add on Overall with the price of gear in Europe its not a bad deal.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unparagoned 0 #5 October 9, 2004 Thanks, for the price comparisn Phreezone, if I had the money and time(uni student) it would be tempting to come over to the US and spend some time in the wind tunnel & buy a rig but I can't. Anyway with your US price estimates the savings would not be that great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unparagoned 0 #6 October 9, 2004 QuoteGood price. You may wish to take some time to stair-step down according to BillVon's checklist along each step from the 210 in your profile to the 150. I will soon have a merit 170 to jump, and I can do as many jumps I need to on that. Speaking to instructors the 170 is a good steping stone. Do you have a link to BillVon's checklist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 October 9, 2004 The search function works like a champ... Quote-Land with rear risers -High performance landing with double fronts and front riser turns -Flat turn; be able to turn at least 90 degrees at 100 feet without diving at the ground -Flare turn; be able to turn at least 45 degrees in either direction during the flare -Land uphill and downhill -Land in no wind and crosswind Note that this may take more than a couple of jumps. Once you can do all that, you should be ready for a loading a little over 1:1. Once you get the smaller canopy, start practicing that stuff on _it_. A good rule of thumb - if you get a canopy that's small enough that you are scared to do the above things on it, it's too small for your experience level. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #8 October 9, 2004 i am in the uk but am from new zealand. I have just purchased through my dealer in new zealand. Without any dicounts for 4000pounds i got Camera helmet, stills camera, newtown site ring Custom made wings, all options(nearly). Custom made sabre-2 150 and pd 146 reserve, i rel work suit, one freefly suit, a pro track, an alti2, All and postage from the states to nz for £4000. I think if you are spending 3000quid to get the same gear as everyone else because there is a discount...well i belive you will find a better deal for exactly what you want when you want it. You will always find good prices out there and most rig manufactures will offer a deal each month. Wait until you are ready and know what you really want. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 October 10, 2004 I wouldn't touch an ATOM, but that's my opinion. For $5300USD you could have your pick of quite a few rig/canopy combinations. The deal ain't that hot, especialy when you consider resale.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #10 October 12, 2004 does the Atom still come with reversed risers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 October 12, 2004 Quoteespecialy when you consider resale. well in Europe the resale of PdF rigs is not too bad... The Atom is a nice rig and the Electra a good intermediate canopy. And yes, the risers are reversed. I personnally don't like that kind of riser setting, but it's just my opinion.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #12 October 12, 2004 Quote And yes, the risers are reversed. I personnally don't like that kind of riser setting, but it's just my opinion. same here - that's why I asked. For Unparagoned: if you haven't seen or used reversed risers, you may want to do a search on here for them. They're very much a personal preference thing, but some people feel that they've contributed to problems in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #13 October 12, 2004 well actually the PdF system is conceived for reversed risers and "would" not have the same problems as "conventional" systems with reversed risers. I am absolutely no expert in this case, just what was told to me.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites