Trafficdiver 8 #26 February 4, 2015 Or it could be that Belichek started benching players for fumbling. In fact Laurence Maroney got shitcaned for not being able to hang on to the ball. They also found out that only one ball was deflated more than a few ticks off 12.5 psi. Total bs story made up by the Colts to discredit the Pats. Nice to see everyone believe it and judge the Patriots before any real proof comes out.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #27 February 4, 2015 Yes, much fuss over nothing. On this month's edition of 60 Minutes Sports, NFL EVP of Football Operations Troy Vincent, in an interview with Arman Keteyian, reveals Colts GM Ryan Grigson was the one who kickstarted the Deflategate controversy. Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25027938/ryan-grigson-tipped-nfl-off-to-deflated-balls-in-patriots-colts Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum. Source: http://thebiglead.com/2015/02/01/nfl-com-report-says-only-one-of-patriots-balls-was-deflated-by-2-psi-not-11-of-them/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #28 February 4, 2015 ryoder Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum. I have no idea how much difference it makes, but to a neophyte like me, 'minimum' means 'must not be under', not 'must not be lots under'. I still have no idea why the NFL though it was a good idea to let the teams anywhere near the balls. Surely if they're the ones mandating pressures, it'd be easier if their officials made sure balls we provided at those pressures? Still, for a non-football fan, I'll say this. I enjoyed this superbowl more than the last one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #29 February 4, 2015 Trafficdiver Or it could be that Belichek started benching players for fumbling. In fact Laurence Maroney got shitcaned for not being able to hang on to the ball. They also found out that only one ball was deflated more than a few ticks off 12.5 psi. Total bs story made up by the Colts to discredit the Pats. Nice to see everyone believe it and judge the Patriots before any real proof comes out.. Pats discredited themselves years ago by not firing Belichick after the previous cheating incident.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #30 February 4, 2015 kallend ***Or it could be that Belichek started benching players for fumbling. In fact Laurence Maroney got shitcaned for not being able to hang on to the ball. They also found out that only one ball was deflated more than a few ticks off 12.5 psi. Total bs story made up by the Colts to discredit the Pats. Nice to see everyone believe it and judge the Patriots before any real proof comes out.. Pats discredited themselves years ago by not firing Belichick after the previous cheating incident. My disdain for the Patriots goes all the way back to Snowplowgate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #31 February 4, 2015 Trafficdiver Or it could be that Belichek started benching players for fumbling. In fact Laurence Maroney got shitcaned for not being able to hang on to the ball. They also found out that only one ball was deflated more than a few ticks off 12.5 psi. Total bs story made up by the Colts to discredit the Pats. Nice to see everyone believe it and judge the Patriots before any real proof comes out.. Maybe...do you know for a fact he made that coaching change in 2006, coinciding with the change in who brings the footballs? Did he not bench players for fumbling prior to 2006? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #32 February 4, 2015 Coach Carroll should have listened to the ghost of Vince Lombardi versus listening to the ghost of Don Coryell. Because here is a video of the alternate ending of how the Super Bowl could have (should have) finished. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My6v8Oe2TkY PS: not my video, but still funny nonetheless. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #33 February 5, 2015 SkyDekker ***Or it could be that Belichek started benching players for fumbling. In fact Laurence Maroney got shitcaned for not being able to hang on to the ball. They also found out that only one ball was deflated more than a few ticks off 12.5 psi. Total bs story made up by the Colts to discredit the Pats. Nice to see everyone believe it and judge the Patriots before any real proof comes out.. Maybe...do you know for a fact he made that coaching change in 2006, coinciding with the change in who brings the footballs? Did he not bench players for fumbling prior to 2006? ill have to look into it, they had a few changes in Offensive coordinators so it could be. Can you prove they have been deflating balls since 2006? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #34 May 6, 2015 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/american-football/32617907 So it looks like the Patriots will be found guilty of deflating match balls. I'd strip them of their superbowl title. It doesn't matter that they were the better team in the end during the match in which the balls were tampered with - they deliberately cheated. If it had been found at the time, maybe the quarterback wouldn't have played the superbowl. Maybe there would have been a repeat of that game... who knows? I'm pretty certain all involved would think a fine and a slap on the wrist is perfectly acceptable in exchange for a superbowl title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #35 May 6, 2015 They will probably end up paying a fine and giving up draft picks next year."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #36 May 7, 2015 yoinkhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/0/american-football/32617907 So it looks like the Patriots will be found guilty of deflating match balls. I'd strip them of their superbowl title. It doesn't matter that they were the better team in the end during the match in which the balls were tampered with - they deliberately cheated. If it had been found at the time, maybe the quarterback wouldn't have played the superbowl. Maybe there would have been a repeat of that game... who knows? I'm pretty certain all involved would think a fine and a slap on the wrist is perfectly acceptable in exchange for a superbowl title. A dirty team with a history of cheating. Maybe Belichick wasn't directly involved but he sets the tone and the buck shouldn't stop until it gets to him.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #37 May 8, 2015 Pfft. Brady is too much of a moneymaker. He won't get suspended. The Pats are too popular. They won't suffer any real consequences. And did you know that Robert Kraft (Pats owner) and Roger Goodell (NFL commish) are close friends? A fine, a slap on the wrist, a couple draft picks, and a "Don't do that again" (again). I'd love to see them stripped of the SuperBowl title. But it is NOT going to happen."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #38 May 12, 2015 wolfriverjoePfft. Brady is too much of a moneymaker. He won't get suspended. The Pats are too popular. They won't suffer any real consequences. And did you know that Robert Kraft (Pats owner) and Roger Goodell (NFL commish) are close friends? A fine, a slap on the wrist, a couple draft picks, and a "Don't do that again" (again). I'd love to see them stripped of the SuperBowl title. But it is NOT going to happen. "While we cannot be certain when the activity began, evidence suggests that (Jan. 18) was not the first and only occasion,"; NFL vice president Troy Vincent. I see no difference between Brady and Lance Armstrong or Barry Bonds.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #39 May 12, 2015 Well, it was a fine, two draft picks (1st round next year, 4th the year after) and Brady sits 4 games. Nothing for Belichick. Well worth it for the Pats, IMO."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #40 May 13, 2015 wolfriverjoeWell, it was a fine, two draft picks (1st round next year, 4th the year after) and Brady sits 4 games. Nothing for Belichick. Well worth it for the Pats, IMO. Yep. "Illegal formation" gets you a 5 yard penalty. If the Pats had a 5 yard penalty on every offensive play with a tampered ball I doubt they'd have done very well. The little league team that cheated was stripped of its title. I guess pro football is just less honest than little league.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #41 May 14, 2015 A little fun with meme's. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #42 July 30, 2015 So... Brady and the Patriots' appeal of his 4 game suspension got shot the fuck down. Apparently, Brady having his cell phone destroyed knowing that investigators specifically requested a look at it to review text messages didn't go over well. Couple more meme's..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
