ryoder 1,590 #1 August 25, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/nyregion/pilot-in-fatal-long-island-crash-was-directed-to-nonexistent-runway-report-says.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #2 August 25, 2015 ryoder http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/nyregion/pilot-in-fatal-long-island-crash-was-directed-to-nonexistent-runway-report-says.html When the pilot screws up, the pilot dies. When the controller screws up, the pilot dies. I wonder what caused the engine issue and how much power if any was available. There had to be a better place to set it down."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #3 August 26, 2015 I would not assume that the controller made any mistakes. The used to be an airport called Bethpage owned by Grumman and you can look it up. Google Earth now shows the area and large industrial buildings and complex and yes, no runways. I doubt the controller, if he had personal knowledge of the prior airport, would direct a pilot to a place that he knows has no runways anymore. And if he did not have personal knowledges that the airport did or did not exist, then that means he got the information about Bethpage from somewhere else. So that likely means that the ATC databases and information is or was out of date. And I am sure that ATC probably has lists of closed and non-existent airports just for the very reason of giving pilots in emergencies more options. too bad that was probably wrong in this case. Sounds like the pilot landed on the tracks next to the 'former airport and got killed. There wasa golf course 1 mile to the east, too bad he never went for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites