Landable malfunction?

[danielcroft 2]

Are you being deliberately contrary? I agree 100% w/ DocPop on this one.

If the first time you ever land on you rears is when you've got a busted toggle because you're too scared to practice it, you ought to rethink what you're flying.

What if you have a toggle come off under 1000ft? What if one of your fingers gets caught in the brake line and you can't chop and can't release? What if you have a total and go straight to your reserve and break a brake line on opening?

I'm not suggesting that any of these scenarios are likely, just that I think they're possible.

[virgin-burner 1]

nope (again ), but i rather like to trust my instructors and their say. i maintain my gear well enough and trust the gear. i'm also not scared to use my reserve.

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[d100965 0]

Virgin Burner,
You said in an earlier post :-
"and just to be an ass, his courses have the reputation that 2 or 3 out of 20 end up hurting themselves"

Just to be clear you are talking absolute crap.
That comment is so much bull it's offensive to skydiving.
You'd better apologise immediately.

I will be reporting your post to the mods and forwarding it for Brain Vachers attention.

[Meso 38]

I've hidden several posts concerning safety records and speculation thereof. If you are going to discuss safety issues in terms of statistics, make sure you have data to back up the claims.

[stayhigh 2]

i heard front flip is hard but back flip is easy.
try not to fall out of the harness guys.

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[theonlyski 8]

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What if you have a toggle come off under 1000ft?

I curse my rigger all the way down, and beat the shit out of him when I get to the ground.

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[Ron 10]

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Does this work?

Been done before.... Hell, we used to sit on our sliders and land.

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[ksudiver87 0]

I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

~Always do stupid things safely~

[virgin-burner 1]

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I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

that's what i keep on saying..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[DocPop 1]

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I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

that's what i keep on saying..

Well he's not going to be able to "whip it out" in the landing pattern. If he had learned to flare on the rears he could have been fine.

Which is what I keep on saying.

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls."

~ CanuckInUSA

[Ron 10]

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I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

And I knew a guy that rode a reserve baglock for the rest of his life.... Reserve's can and do malfunction.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[phoenixlpr 0]

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I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

And I knew a guy that rode a reserve baglock for the rest of his life.... Reserve's can and do malfunction.

Than rather land a ball of sh1t, when you have a potentially good canopy on stand-by?

[DocPop 1]

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I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

And I knew a guy that rode a reserve baglock for the rest of his life.... Reserve's can and do malfunction.

Than rather land a ball of sh1t, when you have a potentially good canopy on stand-by?

Not a ball of shit. But a perfectly good canopy with a broken steering line - certainly.

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls."

~ CanuckInUSA

[phoenixlpr 0]

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perfectly good canopy with a broken steering line

That's a oxymoron. Something is perfect if ond only if it does not have bad issues......

[DocPop 1]

OK - you want to play word games - the canopy is fine, the lines are not.

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls."

~ CanuckInUSA

[popsjumper 2]

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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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[Ron 10]

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Than rather land a ball of sh1t, when you have a potentially good canopy on stand-by?

If the canopy above your head is land-able... Why would you get rid of it?

A broken steering line is quite land-able. A small hole on the bottom skin is quite land-able.

What every happened to controlability checks?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[sundevil777 102]

I landed a canopy with a 5 foot long tear in the center cell bottom skin. It behaved (controllability) as if it wasn't even there, including a really nice landing.

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[danielcroft 2]

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[virgin-burner 1]

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I know of a jumper who had a 'slight' malfunction. he did his control check and it flew fine. on landing pattern the toggle lines became stuck and he had a really nasty landing. this is why you make nice with your rigger, when in doubt whip it out

And I knew a guy that rode a reserve baglock for the rest of his life.... Reserve's can and do malfunction.

time to change your rigger then, uh!? or aim for his loft/car/girlfriend..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[mx19 0]

I know 3 people that have had mals on their reserves. With different riggers, reserves are not perfect, why risk that when you will 99.99% be able to land without incident? Obviously I would chop it if it wasn't controllable but in my eyes people have too much faith in reserves!