poppenhager 1 #1 July 13, 2004 I flat packed a Strong KT7 and rapped the tail around the top then tightly rolled the canopy as per psycho pack (easier to get in the D-bag for the big truck and 71yr. old farts).Jumped it at terminal yesterday and had a nice on heading opening.it was a lot easier and faster to pack that way.Have previousely been using the psycho pack with good results. Has anyone else used this method on more than 1 time?? POP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #2 July 13, 2004 You might want to have a bridle extension at the attachment point. This will lower the wear and tear on the canopy by not having to pull the topskin over to the side of the roll. Also check the attachment point periodically to be sure you are not doing any damage. When the Batwing first came out there was a problem with bridle attahments tearing/separating from the ribs. Precision reinforced the attachment point on subsquent canopy builds... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #3 July 13, 2004 Yes, when I lived in the Mojave Desert, I used to start with a PRO-pack, but roll it from the top. Sure made it easier to shove in the d-bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #4 July 13, 2004 I always PRO pack that way. Once layed down on the ground and flattened out, I kneel on the canopy on the "container" end nearest the slider, pull the canopy up to my chest and then roll it down like a sleeping bag. No real folds at all. It's very tidy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poppenhager 1 #5 July 14, 2004 scott, I had to put a 10in bridal extention on so I could get the d-bag centered.The KT-7 canopy bridal is set up a little deferrent than most . POP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hummusx 0 #6 July 14, 2004 And that works just fine? My wife has had a newish Sabre 150 for a couple months, and it's still too slippery for her to stick in the bag. Having to wait for packers to be available is really dragging down her jumps/trip to the DZ and it's expensive. This sounds like it could really easy up the process...there's no problem with just lifting it up against you and rolling down? ____________________________________ It’s like selling a million grills all at the same time…with extended warranties. -Hank Hill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #7 July 14, 2004 Quotethere's no problem with just lifting it up against you and rolling down? None at all. The bridle attachment can remain clear as well. Just roll it down, then set it on the tail and stuff it in the bag. Just remember this, the last opportunity to make sure the slider is up all the way is before you close up the bag, so double check it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crzjp20 0 #8 July 14, 2004 please forgive my ignorance on this matter, i am still very very new, are you saying you do your fold and what not and then inteead of folding it to put it in the bag, you roll it?? i imigine that would slow down the opening a bit wouldnt it? Sure would make those rental gear jumps much better....-------------------------------------------------- Fear is not a confession of weakness, it is an oportunity for courage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #9 July 14, 2004 After the canopy is skinnied up.. kneel on the tail and pull it up to the chest and yes.. just roll it up (down actually) like a sleeping bag. It will not slow the opening down. As the pilot chute extracts the Parachute from the bag, it straightens it right out no matter how you fold it, or roll it.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crzjp20 0 #10 July 14, 2004 ok so this is more of a get it in the bag trick then??-------------------------------------------------- Fear is not a confession of weakness, it is an oportunity for courage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #11 July 14, 2004 You got it! It's a good one too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crzjp20 0 #12 July 14, 2004 sweet ill try it friday! thanks dude-------------------------------------------------- Fear is not a confession of weakness, it is an oportunity for courage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReLLiK75 0 #13 July 14, 2004 If kneel on it down by where the slider is, then pull the canopy up to your chest and roll it down, what do you do about the bridal and the d-bag? Since the attachment point is where you would begin your roll from, how do you keep them out of the roll??? __________________________________________ Have you Got Flare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #14 July 14, 2004 You can kinda slip the bridle attachment out of the roll as you roll it up. Try it, it should make sense after that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poppenhager 1 #15 July 14, 2004 That's correct crzjp....POP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #16 July 15, 2004 QuoteYou can kinda slip the bridle attachment out of the roll as you roll it up. Try it, it should make sense after that. Exactly. Once rolled down to the point that you get to the bridle attachment point, I simply pull it out a bit so it is clearly exposed. Never a problem at all and no, I don't use any type of extension to pull it out to the side. For clarification: I kneel on the slider end, pull the canopy up to my chest and make sure it stays coccooned, roll it down to the ground, bag it, then flip myself around and stuff in the "counterfold" that I was kneeling on. Lovely and very, very fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickfri59 0 #17 July 15, 2004 QuoteYou can kinda slip the bridle attachment out of the roll as you roll it up. Try it, it should make sense after that. Damn, I wish I was sitting on the floor with my rig instead of sitting behind a desk right now because this is driving me nuts trying to visualize. When you "slip" the bridle attachment out, do you mean slip it out to the side and pulling the top skin with it? If so, I thought that is why a bridle extension was important to a psycho pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReLLiK75 0 #18 July 15, 2004 I'm having the same difficutly visualizing this too. When I pack, my bridal attachment point is at the top of my cocoon. If I started rolling it from the top down to where I'm kneeling where my slider is, I would simply roll my bridal and my d-bag right into my roll. (and I do have my rig right in front of me and still can't figure this out, unless I'm supposed to pull the bridal over to one side while I'm rolling?) __________________________________________ Have you Got Flare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #19 July 15, 2004 Not out the side. Just roll it down, and pull the bridle attachment point straight out the top as usual. It doesn't get rolled into the pack job very much so just pull it out a bit before you stuff it in the bag.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReLLiK75 0 #20 July 16, 2004 How about a photo to clarify this one and for all???? __________________________________________ Have you Got Flare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #21 July 16, 2004 Nope!.. don't have that capability at the moment. sorry My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crzjp20 0 #22 July 16, 2004 AHH im so confused. Im going to the DZ tomarrow ill ask my rigger and get his vibes on the matter....-------------------------------------------------- Fear is not a confession of weakness, it is an oportunity for courage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanofOZ 0 #23 July 16, 2004 Thats what I did today and he said "well I guess it would work but why the hell would you want to" I took that as "I wouldnt do that if I were you" I am still going to try it though.Oz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #24 July 16, 2004 Quote"I took that as "I wouldnt do that if I were you" HAHaha.. one of those types of answers eh? Have him bive you one good reason why not? People Psycho pack and it's nearly the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanofOZ 0 #25 July 17, 2004 I didnt really give his comment much weight. I asked about the Psyco pack and he gave me about the same answer. He seemed like since it was not what he does that it was not something I needed to be doing. I guess I will see tomorrow when it open above my head. I already packed it that way tonight. Oz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites