XtremeSteve 0 #1 June 29, 2004 I travel for work alot and take my rig all around with me. I recently have gone to a DZ and they almost didn't let me jump because my freshly packed reserve seal number was not recorded on my packing card. I would not hold it against the DZ if they didn't let me jump. The rigger who packed my rig is actually from a NON-USPA DZ. Another rigger looked at it from the outside and noticed a few things that looked very sloppy. How do I handle the issue with the rigger.? What do you guys/girls recommend? Blue Skies! Stephen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2 June 29, 2004 Get it re-packed with a good rigger and don't use or recommend the sloppy rigger anymore. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #3 June 29, 2004 If, you're not happy with the pack job, like Hooknswoop said... take it to another rigger. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XtremeSteve 0 #4 June 29, 2004 That's what I was thinking of doing anyways... Besides, this lame DZ doesn't allow fun jumpers either... I have actually bought a second rig this past weekend anyways and will be jumping that until my new canopy comes in... On a bit of a tangent... I am looking at getting a Chute Shop ZP185... Any pros/cons? I heard it's alot like a hornet/sabre2... I fly a Hornet 190 now... Will it be very similar? Blue Skies! Stephen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 June 30, 2004 If I remember correctly the Chute Shop ZP series are rectangular canopies similar to Sabre Mark 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #6 June 30, 2004 QuoteThe rigger who packed my rig is actually from a NON-USPA DZ. This is really kind of a moot point since it's not the USPA who governs riggers, but the FAA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XtremeSteve 0 #7 June 30, 2004 I know it is the FAA... The blatent hint I gave was that it was a Non USPA DZ... and they don't allow fun jumpers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 June 30, 2004 Skydive Las Vegas is a USPA DZ, or they were as of looking at the USPA website 2 minutes ago. Instead of slamming a DZ, its the rigger that should take the blame for the work.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake 0 #9 July 1, 2004 QuoteI recently have gone to a DZ and they almost didn't let me jump because my freshly packed reserve seal number was not recorded on my packing card. You say almost, so you were allowed to jump. This is as it should be since the FARs do not require the seal number to be recorded on the packing data card, only the rigger's signature and certificate number. QuoteAnother rigger looked at it from the outside and noticed a few things that looked very sloppy. How do I handle the issue with the rigger.? This is the more troubling issue. If you are unhappy with a rigger's work, ask questions, or, as stated, find a rigger you are comfortable with. Was any of this sloppiness an actual safety concern? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #10 July 1, 2004 Quote Another rigger looked at it from the outside and noticed a few things that looked very sloppy. How do I handle the issue with the rigger.? What do you guys/girls recommend? Blue Skies! Stephen If a rigger pointed out "a few things that looked very sloppy" on my rig and I agreed with them, I would pop the reserve right then and there and have it re-packed. Maybe the pack job you can't see is flawless, but based on the visible sloppyness, why take the risk? I remember a girl bringing me a rig at Z-Hills that was packed kinda sloppy. She had heard from some of the locals that I could pack a pop-top (SST piggy back) real smooth. Well, after she left the loft, I got the fish scale out and popped her reserve. The pull force was within limits, but when the pilot chute took off, there were four temporary pins complete with red flags (had been tucked under the pilot chute cap). It was the Thanksgiving (Turkey) meet and the rigger happened to be on site. The Master rigger (Jeff Searles) and I brought him into the loft and I swear he nearly fainted when he saw the rig. He knew the pins were missing and was having nightmares about where they might be. Jeff and the ASO and I talked the situation over and it was decided not to tell the jumper (I never could decide if that was a good idea or not, but they were running the show). The incident was reported to the FAA and I re-packed her reserve. She had made about 60 jumps with it since the previous packing date.... Sloppy is sloppy, have it re-done. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatbomb 0 #11 July 2, 2004 QuoteGet it re-packed with a good rigger and don't use or recommend the sloppy rigger anymore. As much as this feels unnatural...I disagree... In the first instance, I would go back to the rigger, and voice your concerns. If he/she doesn't satisfy you with their answer, then do the above. How is the rigger ever going to improve (if there is a problem), or allay your fears (if there is not), if you don't? I feel the first point of contact should be the rigger. If they're unreasonable, don't deal with them anymore.--- Swoopert, CS-Aiiiiiii! Piccies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
