dgskydive 0 #1 June 17, 2004 So how many of you out there are jumping a Vision by Aerodyne now? I have had mine for a few months now and am loving it more everytime I jump it. I have recently lost a lot of weight and it took me awhile to get my new one dialed in for landings. Going up and down on wing loadings was killing me. One week I would really get nice flairs and the next I would look like a fool trying to shut it down. Now that my weight has leveled out and so has my wingloading (1.82) I am really starting to have fun with it. Great openings when I pack it, (not so soft with a few of our local packers putting it in the bag). I will have t get them trined up on how to pack it correctly. That outta be fun! I actually got some really nice swoops this past weekend and big smiles all day when it came time to set up for final. I will say that this canopy likes to be brought in fast. So stay off if you are not into fast landings. I still think it is a great first time HP canopy for folks. The recovery arch is really nice and short, helping those that may get into the corner a bit. this arch can be extended by harness input and if you try you can give it a really long dive and make this thing come in nice and hot! If you haven't tried on yet get a demo and enjoy!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 2 #2 June 17, 2004 How do you extend the recovery arc by harness input? The recovery arc usually describes the arc a canopys flight path describes from going from a dive to level flight with no input, doesn't it? Just curious...The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #3 June 18, 2004 I've used harness input on many canopies to increase the recovery arc. The harness turn is usually slower and allows the canopy to stay in the turn for longer, thus "increasing" the dive, as opposed to bringing it right around with a riser. Your right, though, the recovery arc is with no input. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan 1 #4 June 18, 2004 I define recovery arc very much like you, although some canopies, maybe even most, won't return to level flight with no input and then there are those that recover to level flight by how you finish the dive. For example, near the end of a relatively steep dive as the front riser pressure is high, you can ease up on them relatively quickly and the canopy wants to plane out with no further input. One way to sustain a dive, and in a manner of speaking, extending the recovery arc, is to use the harness to give the opposite input as the front riser you are using. It may not be the most efficient method but it may be a better alternative to planing out too high.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #5 June 18, 2004 MAybe I used the wrong term. What I am trying to say is that by leaning forward in the harness you can keep it in the dive a lot longer allowing you to set up higher and build up more speed for a nice swoop. I guess technically the revovery arch is the same, you can just extend the dive. Sorry for any confusion.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #6 June 18, 2004 Quote...by leaning forward in the harness you can keep it in the dive a lot longer allowing you to set up higher and build up more speed for a nice swoop. n. What? I fail to see what difference leaning forward in the harness would make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #7 June 18, 2004 QuoteWhat? I fail to see what difference leaning forward in the harness would make. Try it sometime. When leaning way forward in your harness it will change the angle of attack of the canopy and therefore keep it in a longer dive. Also extend your legs down when doing this.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 June 18, 2004 QuoteWhat? I fail to see what difference leaning forward in the harness would make. Leaning foward will tranfer weight furthur foward under the wing as leaning back will transfer weight further back under the wing. On smaller highly loaded canopies this can have some minor effect to the dive or float. Similar to changing the CG in an aircraft.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #9 June 18, 2004 Yeah, I understand the concept. It's just a bit incredible, considering that the front and rear risers connect to the harness at a single point. I'll give it a try, but I suspect that the change of moment and drag with body position will be a larger effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #10 June 18, 2004 Go do a few high hop-n-pops with a friend and try it. It will help you not only feel it but see it. When someone is next to you under canopy you can reaaly see it happen.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #11 June 18, 2004 I'll give that a try some time, but I tend to agree with Brian. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=865623#865623 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
