bmcd308 0 #1 June 14, 2004 When I hear about lines breaking below the cascades, it always makes me wonder why the cascades are there in the first place. Does anyone know if there is an advantage other than pack volume to having cascades? Would a reserve with continuous dacron lines be so big that no one would buy it? I would think that using dacron instead of more modern materials on a reserve would allow some stretch in overspeed situations, and if the lines were continuous more of them could break and leave a somewhat controllable assembly behind. Other than the resulting giant rigs, what other problems might there be with such a design? Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 June 14, 2004 QuoteDoes anyone know if there is an advantage other than pack volume to having cascades? Drag. Cascaded lines produce less drag because their are fewer.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 June 14, 2004 Lower cost also. Not having to buy the extra line's save a few bucks per canopy. Over the course of a few hundred canopies thats hundreds or thousands of dollars that the company saved.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #4 June 14, 2004 precision aerodynamics have continuous linesets...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #5 June 15, 2004 Quoteprecision aerodynamics have continuous linesets... Yes, they do. Do you know why? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #6 June 15, 2004 Vector Tandem reserves have continuous lines also. It is bulkier, but stronger. Also, if you break one "lower" line, you only lose the support of one line, not 2, as with cascaded canopies. The brake lines are continuous too, for the same reason. I didn't want to sacrifice safety for less bulk on "public transportation". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 June 15, 2004 HMA is hard to cascade and cascaded HMA I've heard has a shorter useful life. Trying to confirm that one though.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #8 June 15, 2004 QuoteHMA is hard to cascade and cascaded HMA I've heard has a shorter useful life. Trying to confirm that one though. and apparently they have less parasite turbulence with the non cascaded hma lines (if I recall correctly what I read on their site)scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #9 June 15, 2004 QuoteLower cost also. Not having to buy the extra line's save a few bucks per canopy. Over the course of a few hundred canopies thats hundreds or thousands of dollars that the company saved. The amount saved on a few yards per canopy is quickly eaten up in the labor costs involved in producing the cascaded lines. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #10 June 15, 2004 Cascaded lines got rid of pack volume back when the suspension lines were the size of shoelaces. Just one reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites