kevin922 0 #1 May 31, 2004 I just had my hornet 135 relined and now every jump (put 6 or 8 on it this weekened) makes me think i'm gonna tear my canopy up it's so hard. Here's what i've done: Packed the same way as before the reline Rolled the nose tight Got someone else to pack it Replaced all the rubber bands Everything I did, made no change to the opening characteristics. I can tell you that my rigger followed PISA/Aerodyne's instructions to a T re-measuring numerous times to make sure everything was done correctly. I can also tell you that there were some additional marks on the brake lines that didn't make sense to him, he called aerodyne - they didn't have an answer, tried to get in touch with the people in SA and finally got some type of answer that didn't make much sense but my rigger did what they said. Everything measures the way it is supposed to according to aerodyne. I can't seem to find anyone at my DZ who has actually had a canopy relined, evidentally they all sell their shit and get new. Is this a typical scenerio for a reline? I heard some mfg. make their lines so that they "stretch" into trim, and others make them so that they are in trim when you put it on the canopy. Is there any truth to this? Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airgord 1 #2 May 31, 2004 On both of my Stiletto's I have them relined when I start to get spanked. There have been instances where the lineset was trimmed incorrectly at the factory but you said your rigger measured everything, I would suspect the brakeline setting from the loop up to the cascade, maybe too long? You said Aerodyne wasn't much help in the U.S., do they not do canopy repairs over here? You might try to call Aerodyne yourself and rattle their cage a little, you know get some "customer service" out of them. Good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #3 June 1, 2004 the only possibility i can think of is send your canopy to aerodynes factory and see if there wasn't a mistake made by your rigger, or by the people he called who told him the wrong thing. if something was wrong with the reline, they may replace it for free if their people told your rigger the wrong thing. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #4 June 1, 2004 Just an idea here.... A skydiver where I jump had a canopy re-lined (not sure of the type of canopy)....when it came back to him it behaved VERY badly. He had a rigger measure the lines and found out that his 135 canopy had 120 lines on it! He sent it back and got a new re-line for free. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 June 1, 2004 QuoteYou might try to call Aerodyne yourself and rattle their cage a little, you know get some "customer service" out of them. Good luck FWIW Aerodyne has some of the best "customer service in the industry right now. And they are trying to be helpful with an orphaned product that isn't even one of theirs.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #6 June 1, 2004 QuoteAnd they are trying to be helpful with an orphaned product that isn't even one of theirs. Built in the same factory and by the same people hardly seems like it's orphaned... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmfreefly 0 #7 June 1, 2004 QuoteI heard some mfg. make their lines so that they "stretch" into trim, and others make them so that they are in trim when you put it on the canopy. Is there any truth to this? Not stretch, shrink. (microline shirnks from heat of friction from the slider grommets). You have microline, which will shrink after use. I believe it was atair and related co's that used this on their cobalts, vipers, alphas. I can't find direct 'admittance' of this (didn't search too hard), but cobaltdan mentions this idea here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=370834;search_string=trim%20shrink%20atair;#370834 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #8 June 1, 2004 QuoteI can't find direct 'admittance' of this (didn't search too hard), but cobaltdan mentions this idea here: From atair's website: Yes, spectra lines change dimensions slightly, but they are easy to inspect, wear, and have no tendency for breaking. As with any raw material, an engineer must design their product around the specific characteristics of that material. The Atair Cobalt is not overly sensitive to trim. When a Cobalt canopy is built it is actually not in perfect trim. After 40-100 jumps the spectra is broken in changing dimensions to put the canopy into a more perfect trim. Other canopies may go out of trim, ours go into it! A new cobalt flies great, and as you break it in you will only become happier with it. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites