winsor 236 #1 May 20, 2004 I just picked up a 1979 UT-15, which is the Russian variant on the Para Commander theme. Though I expect to jump it after putting it in some kind of modern configuration rig (BOC Wonderhog or whatever), I'm somewhat baffled by the apparent lack of line stows in the rig in which it came. The deployment sleeve is nylon, going against the conventional wisdom that nylon vs. nylon leads to burns. At the bottom of the sleeve there is not the usual flap with grommets, but merely elastic around the hem. In any event, I would appreciate input from anyone who knows how this system worked when set up. It sure isn't obvious to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #2 May 20, 2004 QuoteUT-15 packing tips? I just picked up a 1979 UT-15, which is the Russian variant on the Para Commander theme. The best packing tip I can give you is to lay it out with the front towards the ground. Add tension on it by attaching at the apex and at the rig. Carefully inspect it........Then unhook it, and pack it into a nice box and never jump the damn thing."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #3 May 20, 2004 Are you still in Serbia? Have you asked around yet or checked with the old-timers? I'm pretty sure most of the rounds that were used there came from the east-bloc, so chances are someone should remember how the system worked. BTW, I'll ask our instructor if he's ever jumped that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #4 May 20, 2004 You should ask one of the instructors or more experienced jumpers at you DZ for advise. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robibird 3 #5 May 20, 2004 I have manual for that awesome canopy. UT -15 was the BEST round dport canopy ever. Have more than 100 jumps on them. It it is so much fun. E-mail me the address and I'll send you copy. It is easy to pack that round , just use the logic. sleve is made from nylon - yes , but you'll never find any burned spot on it. Regards RobiRobert Pecnik robert@phoenix-fly.com www.phoenix-fly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #6 May 21, 2004 QuoteYou should ask one of the instructors or more experienced jumpers at you DZ for advise. The guy I got it from is the DZO and the Serbian equivalent of a Master Rigger. I probably have as many Para Commander class canopy jumps as any of them, and it is not a lack of experience on anyone´s part per se. The problems are that there is no apparent provision for stowing the lines and that there is no mechanism to keep the canopy in the sleeve until after line stretch. Given some of the Russian skydiving hardware I have seen, such as the drogue-delay system for high-speed exits, I am not assured that anything similar to conventional line-stows with sleeve-locking are part of the deal. I will probably pack it D-bagged in my biggest Wonderhog or whatever, since I´ve had great luck with that approach and the UT-15 has had nothing but rave reviews from everyone I know who has jumped one. It is mostly a matter of curiosity that I ask how it packed in the rig in which it now sits, since it is anything but obvious. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 May 21, 2004 My response was tongue in cheek.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #8 May 21, 2004 QuoteMy response was tongue in cheek. Okay, so I wasn´t paying attention.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites