piisfish 140 #1 April 29, 2004 I have a Talon (1) with soft housings. Would like to have hard housings for my cutaway, but it seems very difficult for my rigger to get them from the manufacturer, which, despite giving them the mfg number of the rig sent 3 times wrong sizes... WHAT SHOULD I DO TO GET THEM ??scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #2 April 29, 2004 Wow! I've ordered several sets of 'hard' routings for the Talon and have never had a problem. Call Rigging Innovations and ask for either Sandy or Brenda Reid. Unless, the Serial Number (necessary for order) is illegible or something, there should be no problem. You can get them and give them to your rigger to install. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #3 April 29, 2004 Just ordered them and changed one for a customer last night. Did they agree they were the wrong size and did they send a different size each time, or did your rigger decide they were the wrong size? You have to follow the instructions. For the rig I did, a 1996 Talon, they don't go through the chest strap like other rigs. The ends are above the chest strap just under the mud flap. I your rigger is trying to make it look like some other rigs with the housings ending right above the handle, rather than following the directions, he would think they were too short. It is NOT difficult to get them from RI. All they need is the serial number and you will get what you should have.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #4 April 29, 2004 Heres a little known fact about RI soft housings. The RI soft housings received a bad rap along with the soft housings from SunPath even though (to my knowledge) the RI housings never had any of the same or similuar problems that some jumpers had with the Sun Path style soft housings. According to Sandy Reid, RI switched to the hard housing as a result of fears by the consumers. Not actuall incedents in the field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 April 29, 2004 thanks to all of you for the good advice, will check again with my rigger, and with RI. YAHHOOOO will soon have them then....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 April 29, 2004 QuoteHeres a little known fact about RI soft housings. The RI soft housings received a bad rap along with the soft housings from SunPath even though (to my knowledge) the RI housings never had any of the same or similuar problems that some jumpers had with the Sun Path style soft housings. According to Sandy Reid, RI switched to the hard housing as a result of fears by the consumers. Not actuall incedents in the field. Why did they go to soft housing in the first place? Did they improve function or safety? If so, how? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #7 April 29, 2004 You know Sparkey, I've asked that question and about all I could gather was, it was 'cosmetic' and a possible way of boosting sales. I spoke with Sandy Reid about them and he had no reports of any problems with his type os 'soft' routings. I saw one incident with a Javelin and when we 're-created' the incident, we observed the Type-4, the routings were made of 'bunch-up' around the release cable, making release of the main almost impossible. I've done many conversions on both Javelins and Talons, including my own. As you stated, conversions on the Talon were probably out of concern. Chuck Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #8 April 29, 2004 QuoteQuote] Why did they go to soft housing in the first place? Did they improve function or safety? If so, how? Sparky If I had to guess I'd say the reasoning behind making the Soft housing VS buying hard housings is purely economic. If they make their own housings, the profit margin goes up. Granted not by all that much, but if you add that savings to all the other possible savings during production, then multiply that total times the number of rigs built, it begins to add up. In addition to the cost benefit, the manufacture also avoids the inevitable delays associated with receiving the hard housing from the supplier. this results in faster production times per unit and happy customers who receive their gear on time or early, which equals more sales and on and on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #9 April 29, 2004 In a discussion with Sandy Reid, that is basically what he told me. Personally, I think they are scarry. Bill Booth, has responded in an earlier thread and in Skydiving Magazine with; "If you have them (soft routings), please, get rid of them!" To me, that holds a lot of weight, coming from the man who invented the 3-Ring System! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #10 April 30, 2004 Call that Swiss rigger named Freddy Zbinden at La Couture. Freddy was approved by R.I. to do repairs and modifications to Talons. If I may be picky, sounds like you have a '94 Talon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
masterrig 1 #9 April 29, 2004 In a discussion with Sandy Reid, that is basically what he told me. Personally, I think they are scarry. Bill Booth, has responded in an earlier thread and in Skydiving Magazine with; "If you have them (soft routings), please, get rid of them!" To me, that holds a lot of weight, coming from the man who invented the 3-Ring System! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #10 April 30, 2004 Call that Swiss rigger named Freddy Zbinden at La Couture. Freddy was approved by R.I. to do repairs and modifications to Talons. If I may be picky, sounds like you have a '94 Talon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
