nicknitro71 0 #1 April 10, 2006 Tree and I spent this past week-end rigging. I cannot thank him enough for his help in creating the life saving device. The rig came out just dandy. There are few things that are sort of unique. The fabric is a cool "ballistic nylon" that feels even heavier than cordura, yet it's got the shine of parapack and the look of carbon fiber. It should also be very durable. The articulation is a 4 point-one not a 3 or 2 like other designs. The slot of the d-ring faces the lat, not the mail lift web. It was a shot in the dark but the end-result is the best fitting harness I have ever worn. Tree's front flap design is IMO superior to any other designs. Finally the Over-Cutaway system: In short a loop was built right above and under the d-ring. A l-bar is attached to the loop with the other end attached to l-bar risers. The latter is for the packed canopy. The d-ring is for the unpacked one. Tard-roll-float-gain-OVER then cutaway, back in FF and open the packed canopy (in the pic the silver are the d-ring risers, and the black ones the l-bar risers). The only problem is that now Nitro Rigging has to invest in more sewing machines...Damn you Mark!Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #2 April 10, 2006 that is a sweet looking rig. i especially like the integrated second canopy attachment... overall looks great, and well made to boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vandev 0 #3 April 10, 2006 Looks awsome...I will give you my address so you can send it! really nice.... In the end...the universe has a way of working itself out.... "Harold and Kumar go to White Castle" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magot 0 #4 April 11, 2006 KT that rig looks totaly evil chrome infack I tell u what just to make sure it works and it doesn't fall apart like those risers u made for me. Lucky for me I had a reserve. but any way if it does work, maybe I'll give it back. does it come cypress ready. And I didn't see an RSL on the rig whats the deal. but seriously that rig is Mohamud Jehad bauckala and tube steak worthyTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RayLosli 11 #5 April 11, 2006 ..."I cannot thank him enough for his help in creating the life saving device. " - I don't think it is an actual Life Saving Device. Till you actually Jump It. And You LIVE. ....... . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magot 0 #6 April 11, 2006 you should put a tree saw on the rig instead of a hook knife show u can get your self out off the trees. that way u could jump with out me.. PS when are u gonna build me a rig with a BC in it thats Boyince Compincater u Know what i mean . and rays right u gotta flick itTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treejumps 0 #7 April 11, 2006 That does not look safe to jump. Nothing like standing on the exit point with brand new gear you sewed together yourself. Hope it works. (just kidding, ......maybe) Cya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #8 April 11, 2006 I think it would be funny that after the jump you find yourself under the canopy and you go "yeah, it worked!!!" Then stitch by stitch the harness comes apart, really slowly, and you just hope it will hold until landing...that would be a decent rush It would be cool if a container manufacture would enter willing-full customers on a bounce bingo. They'd use safety thread to put the harness together instead of 5 cord. Let's say 1 in 100 harnesses is built that way. The customers cannot tell the difference because of the mud-flap covering the MLW stitching but they'd know about the 1/100. I bet Maggot would enter in such a game Chances something is going to happen (1/100) are still less than people jumping off cliffs with 20 jumps or so Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeordieSkydiver 0 #9 April 11, 2006 Any plans to sell these rigs? .Lee _______________________________ In a world full of people, only some want to fly, is that not crazy? http://www.ukskydiver.co.uk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifewithoutanet 0 #10 April 11, 2006 QuoteAny plans to sell these rigs? Not as rigs, but rumor has it Tree's started on a line of purses after maggot...errrr...I mean "Felonie" made a request. -C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treejumps 0 #11 April 11, 2006 You talkin' to me? I do sell them, but I keep a low profile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magot 0 #12 April 11, 2006 yes the rigs are fot sale ill jst chain nick to a sewing machine and make him work for jumps and food. they are 500 bucks each. send cash only.I also have other goodies for sale. and all rigs come RSL equiptedTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #13 April 11, 2006 Not only the RSL is standard, the rigs are all Cypres ready at no additional costs. The cypres operating unit can be mounted on the left mud flap kinda like the FXC so in one shot you can see if the cypres is on and if the RSL is hooked in right, all for simplicity and safety at the exit point. We also offer gore-tex cypres pouches for those jumping rounds or subscribing to the "You dry faster than you heal"...unless you can't swim like Maggot. Other goodies include carbon fiber mud flaps for tree landings (a must in my case), biodegradable hardware, for those "tree huggers", spring loaded PC with stainless steel rip cord cable and soft housing, hard riser inserts for spinning malfunctions, and also hooks for a tersh mounted on the leg-strap. All again at no additional costs. The Nitro Rigging "Shit Happens" rig will be available to the public in the near future for an introductory price of 5000 USD plus 2000 USD for shipping and handling. PA residents must add applicable sale tax. The rigs are tax deducted because profits will go through the "Maggot Foundation of Human Rights".Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
980 0 #14 April 11, 2006 OK Nitro, Cut to the important part: Show us the pin cover open, with pins, loops and bridle present. Also a few pics with the container open would be nice. Thanks dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #15 April 11, 2006 How about a blow job? Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #16 April 11, 2006 You're lucky I'm a nice guy.Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magot 0 #17 April 11, 2006 I think its missing a floatation device and lights for night jumpsTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #18 April 11, 2006 Thanks Maggot, That's a great idea! You know what, you can be my R&D!Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #19 April 12, 2006 yah but where does the reserve go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pocbase 0 #20 April 13, 2006 There doesn't seem to be a stiffener in the pin cover flap. I may have misunderstood Tom's review on the Odyssey. In the review Tom speaks of the lack of stiffener in the pin cover flap making the rig unsafe for delays exceeding 6 seconds. Just need some clarity on that. "The Odyssey FX pin cover flap is the primary culprit. Since the flap has no stiffener, it tends to pop open when exposed to high speed airflow. Once this has occurred, the pins can easily be extracted by bridle flap (the bridle between the pins is longer than the pin spacing--as it should be--and the extra length of bridle tends to flap when exposed to the airstream)." Also is there a reason for configuring the closure left over right (as opposed to right over left with the gargoyle where the bridle comes out on the lhs) or is it really not important? Looks pretty good otherwise. poc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
980 0 #21 April 13, 2006 Hey Pat. I’m still at work, but when I get home I will take and post pics of my Odyssey FX, as they do have stiffeners in the cover flap and the way they deal with the bridle is really very neat. That said, mine were made last year and I have not done more than a 6.5 on them, but I know many using them terminal and terminal with aerials with no issues. They have a specially shaped stiffener in the cover flap that allows for easy bridle extraction still, even at low airspeed and in a head high position. From my experience the FX is a really nice rig, but what do I know, I only have 211 jumps on my two. Cya Sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #22 April 13, 2006 I'll let Tree answer that in details because that is his design. However the pin flap is pretty stiff without the use of hard plastic. The two layers sandwich type 12 webbing. Also, where the pin flap tucks in, there is a lexan stiffener that runs for the whole length of the side flap (that's the right one by the way). Honestly I cannot see how the pin flap can come open, it's a pretty solid design that also looks good. As for the closure it's always Right and then Left. The bridle is routed to the right so by closing left and then right you could cause a snagging point...not a great scenario 2 sec from impact!Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #23 April 13, 2006 Quote...Tom's review on the Odyssey.... Be sure to check the date on that, too. I've got no idea what recent production Odyssey's like Sams are like. My Odyssey FX had real problems staying closed at high airspeeds. I have no idea about the rig discussed in this thread, or about (much) newer version of the Odyssey FX.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lonnie 0 #24 April 13, 2006 Hey Tom, The issue with the flap staying closed was fixed a few years ago, shortly after you had expressed concerns with it. I worked closely with Colin on fixing this problem. They work fine to terminal, even with aerials. There was even some people who thought that it was too stiff for low stuff, but I have taken it to both extremes, and it works great. From the pics, it seems that Tree has copied the FX's closing flap. If it is the same, he will need to stiffen it up. The problem happens when you're in a good track. Air flowing over the rig, gets in and under the flap and pops it open.NEVER GIVE UP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pocbase 0 #25 April 13, 2006 Hey Sam, good to hear from you. I see you're a regular at this forum. You showed me your new rig before you left and it is pretty neat. Tom, i had read your review a very long time ago indeed and just remembered the cover flap thing. i went back to it with regard to this particular rig. In other words, I am not denying the Odyssey has evolved, probably even to the point where it is at least on par with the Gargoyle (after seeing Sam and Mick's new rigs). Nicknitro, understood about the cover flap but still don't understand the snaging point problem. The Gargoyle is a similar type of design but closes right over left, you just can't close it the other way. I am looking at her now but I just can't see where the bridle could get snagged. I also take the bridle out of the container through the middle as opposed to the top to the first pin. Looking at the pic of yours, i can't see the snag point either. Bah it's late so maybe it will occur to me when i've had some sleep. Sam, next time around don't come in summer but rather at this time. It's been real good lately (then again it was a real crap summer). Thanks for the replies all. poc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites