grue 1 #1 January 15, 2006 Let's say you have a hypothetical relative who lives in a 24th floor condomimum with a balcony overlooking a beach belonging to their condo building. If you have the relative's permission to jump the balcony (which they fully own, no loans), and you're coming down on the beach that's essentially partially the relative's, would it be a legal B jump?cavete terrae. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #2 January 15, 2006 negative... did you have the building owners permission? add: is the beach public access?Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #3 January 15, 2006 Quotenegative... did you have the building owners permission? add: is the beach public access? Sorry, I had to make an edit: Since they fully paid for the condo, wouldn't they in fact be the owner of the section of the building being jumped from? Beach is private, insofar as I know.cavete terrae. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #4 January 15, 2006 Depending on where you are at (country) You access the building itself from the owners front door. There has to be a blame line...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #5 January 15, 2006 In practice? You probably won't get busted for it. In theory? You'd need the permission of the homeowner's association. Legally, condominium ownership is a bit strange. The way it works is that the individual condo "owners" actually only own what's called an "air lot" or "air parcel" which amounts to the actual space in between the walls of their unit. The actual walls of the unit are owned by the homeowner's association, which is required by it's charter to maintain and keep up those walls (and all the other physical parts of the property, like sidewalks, lawns, hallways, etc). As a result, in actual legal terms, the individual "owner" of the condo does not actually own the balcony you jump off, or the beach you land on and therefore cannot grant permission to you to do the jump. Note that the above is my personal opinion, based on my understanding of laws specific to a few states. It may not apply in your particular jurisdiction, and in any event I am not a licensed legal professional, so my opinions should not be treated as legal advice. If you want a legal opinion for your particular jurisdiction, I recommend contacting an attorney licensed to practice there. A property law specialist would probably be your best bet. edit: typo-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #6 January 15, 2006 QuoteNote that the above is my personal opinion, based on my understanding of laws specific to a few states. It may not apply in your particular jurisdiction, and in any event I am not a licensed legal professional, so my opinions should not be treated as legal advice. If you want a legal opinion for your particular jurisdiction, I recommend contacting an attorney licensed to practice there. A property law specialist would probably be your best bet. sounds like you have been counseled by a lawyer...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brabzzz 0 #7 January 15, 2006 Regarding the OPs Q, no idea. But I suppose that if it's not in the owners contract to 'prevent it', you're not breaking in, at 4 am you'd hardly be a public nuiscence and you won't have trespassed on land... Related crazy idea - why not just take out an ad somewhere offering to 'buy' access from anyone living anywhere high, or write all the residents a nice letter (and a vid or something showing you are not just depressed)? Lol, i'd let you nutters jump my balcony out of morbid curiosity! --------------------------------------- Ex-University of Bristol Skydiving Club www.skydivebristoluni.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 January 15, 2006 QuoteRelated crazy idea - why not just take out an ad somewhere offering to 'buy' access from anyone living anywhere high, or write all the residents a nice letter (and a vid or something showing you are not just depressed)? It would be simpler to just lease (or sub-lease) an apartment for some time period. This strategy has been used very effectively by BASE jumpers on several occasions.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #9 January 15, 2006 Quoteat 4 am you'd hardly be a public nuiscence Have you heard a slider-down deployment? In the middle of the night, the beach may be clear, but you wouldn't be making any friends in the apartment block.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #10 January 15, 2006 eh... just PCA or SL... u be aight G.... lolLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brabzzz 0 #11 January 15, 2006 I was thinking more in the context of standing on a bridge and distracting passing drivers on pre-exit/landing/under canopy or stressing out any security goons who might waste police time as a result. Didn't think of the noise aspect, but as you said, i imagine it sounds like thunder! --------------------------------------- Ex-University of Bristol Skydiving Club www.skydivebristoluni.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
