avenfoto 0 #1 November 3, 2005 the s/l thread got me thinking... what are the differences in different deployment method/configuration openings.. (i realize there wil be anomalies and variations by canopy/options etc..) maybe a chart of some sort.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean621 0 #2 November 3, 2005 mojo240 and troll unvented 225 42" ZP SIX SPOKE PILOT CHUTE for all delays and hights from 200 up to 550...after that mojo240 with a 4 spoke 38"...enjoy the thread cos its gonna be confusinghttp://www.extreme-on-demand.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #3 November 3, 2005 Is the 4 spoke just because that's what you have, or do you have a real preference for 4 (rather than 6) once you get more airspeed? And if so, can you explain why?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #4 November 3, 2005 I think that the length of the centerline has far more to do with how much drag a PC creates (which is the real reason for switching PC sizes for different airspeeds) so load tape configuration would take a backseat to that. The closest we're going to be able to come on this is a very general idea of how many vertical feet generally a certain configuration takes to open. Also are we assuming a go-n-throw, or a delay appropriate for that object height assuming an immediately available landing area? If we can agree on a couple of standards, then we should be able to have a productive conversation about this. What we would need to do is agree on a general set of parameters. And we'd almost have to do a separate thread for all configurations. Or we could do a series of polls to collect information for a while and then make a chart based on general consensus. This would be very approximate though. I think the best solution would be for everyone to meet up at Tom's and we can spend an entire weekend lasering and videoing openings with the different configurations and different gear. A solid weekend of a couple hundred lasered and video'd jumps could give us a lot of good information. How should we do this? edit:typos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #5 November 3, 2005 QuoteI think that the length of the centerline has far more to do with how much drag a PC creates (which is the real reason for switching PC sizes for different airspeeds) so load tape configuration would take a backseat to that. Can you elaborate? Maybe start a new thread (or I'll split this if it gets too lengthy). You think the length of the centerline is more important than the diameter of the PC? Or is the length of the centerline relative to the diameter of the PC? I ask because one of the best ways to create a self-stabilizing PC appears to be varying the length of the centerline and bottom (mesh) skin (i.e. creating a 3D PC). Do you think this will have an impact on the drag created by the PC?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomDancs 0 #6 November 3, 2005 Chad, you said "meet at Tom's"... I'm happy to have you all over, but I don't think my house is tall enough to BASE jump from... :) Tom Dancs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #7 November 3, 2005 No given PC's of the same diameter, the length of the centerline will be more important than the number of loadtapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 November 3, 2005 Quote "meet at Tom's"... What was it Chad said in the other thread? How many Tom's do we have? Tom A, Tom B, Tom D... Maybe we ought to say there can only be one Tom for each letter of last name. Who's Tom C?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #9 November 4, 2005 Also, I actually don't know why anyone would jump a "4 spoke PC" especially at higher airspeeds, when a PC with more loadtapes would be more stable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #10 November 4, 2005 QuoteAlso, I actually don't know why anyone would jump a "4 spoke PC" especially at higher airspeeds, when a PC with more loadtapes would be more stable. In general I agree with you (ultra low freefall excepted). But Sean is an experienced jumper who chooses to do so, so it's possible that he has a good reason.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #11 November 4, 2005 I know, and I'm hoping he'll tell us why. I'm pretty curious about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #12 November 4, 2005 QuoteThe closest we're going to be able to come on this is a very general idea of how many vertical feet generally a certain configuration takes to open. this is essentially what i meant.. there are obviously the big three..(or four).. s/l, pca(proper) s/u, s/d this would obviously vary a bit depending on delay, so i guess to keep it simple to start, assume gonthrow, all deployments from same object.... if you really wanted to dig in you could start comparing gear configurations, but that seems almost redundant... most modern gear is going to be similar, with exception of vents/novents... but, it is the weekend now (almost) so fuck it... go outside and play... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean621 0 #13 November 4, 2005 thats what i have...as it happens ive never had any orbiting issues with it either,when the time arises (new years) i will be going for an all singing all dancing vented 6 or 8 spoke 36 ZP that will boost my quiver of weapons ready for my uplift in new objects that i have planned next year.http://www.extreme-on-demand.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base311 0 #14 November 4, 2005 We used to have a Tom F in the ATL. He was in Boise last time I heard anything out of him. gardner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #15 November 4, 2005 add tard and rollover to list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
