Conundrum 1 #1 September 11, 2005 Can you tell me what happend? Who was at fault? http://www.compfused.com/directlink/899/ *you may have to refresh the page before it will play* Thanks in advance, wasn't sure what to 'search' for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingTed 0 #2 September 11, 2005 It`s here, too: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1820557;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread #1094 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #3 September 11, 2005 wow, thats some scary sh1t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #4 September 11, 2005 none of these links will work for me, anyone else having the same prob?Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outrager 6 #5 September 11, 2005 QuoteCan you tell me what happend? Who was at fault? Me. And you've seen exactly what happened bsbd! Yuri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #6 September 11, 2005 QuoteCan you tell me what happend? Who was at fault?Quote It depends on who you ask. At the time, Yuri took full responsibility for the fuck-up just so everyone would shut up about it. [Edited to add: he beat me to the post--I guess the early account remains the historic account and trumps any intervening accounts. So there you have it from the horse's mouth.] There are several accounts on rec.skydiving, but I'm not going to post links this time. If you want to read them, you'll have to hunt for them. That video is a stolen moment from the Lemmings '95 video...although it looks like this particular clip was probably stolen from Hard Copy, which received permission from Will Forshay to air it. There's another, similar video a year later (I think it was '96 but it might have been '97). The star of that show was Lee Werling. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmcoco84 5 #7 September 11, 2005 What jump number was that for you yuri? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base428 1 #8 September 11, 2005 As Rhonda mentioned, that video was from Bridge Day 1995/Extremes and I currently own the sole copyright. Ya gotta love how easy it is for people to copy your videos without permission and put them all over the internet.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JFK 0 #9 September 11, 2005 Trying to understand in order not to make the same mistakes again. Let me know what you think of that: Usually in multiple ways you define the exit order to stack the openings. In that case you can see, according to the opening sequence that the girl is slider down and the guys slider up. It is logical that the girl should pitch first (canopy opening faster). As she is making the count she will definitely leave before the other ones if they are not vigilent enough , best is to count together to get the rythm and exit exactly when you want to exit. The cameramen should leave almost at the same time to be able to clear the girl's pilot chute. The second guy should leave a split second later because he is behind the 2 others and he shouldn't push them at the exit. Leaving really late, the second guy ends up head low because he is focusing on the girl, he is too high when she throws and as she has an offheading, he can't avoid hitting it. The unstability as well as the offheadings are not the main cause of the incident, with a 35° right offheading, the cameramen would have probably cleared it. Timing seems to be the critical point to avoid such situations, the easiest could have been to spread the 3 way on the widht of the bridge, which might not have been possible at that bridge day. Jul.JFK #1013 PM Me No Adrenalin.... No Fun! "Minds are like parachutes the Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #10 September 11, 2005 Quote Leaving really late, the second guy ends up head low because he is focusing on the girl, he is too high when she throws and as she has an offheading, he can't avoid hitting it. Don't be fooled by the video. He probably has faster reaction time and better spatial awareness than anyone you've ever run into. He was getting out of the way the split-second he saw her start to pitch. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JFK 0 #11 September 11, 2005 QuoteQuote Leaving really late, the second guy ends up head low because he is focusing on the girl, he is too high when she throws and as she has an offheading, he can't avoid hitting it. Don't be fooled by the video. He probably has faster reaction time and better spatial awareness than anyone you've ever run into. He was getting out of the way the split-second he saw her start to pitch. ok.JFK #1013 PM Me No Adrenalin.... No Fun! "Minds are like parachutes the Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base515 0 #12 September 11, 2005 I've got video, of almost the same thing happening on a bandit jump at this location. Dropping through the arches on a 2way the high man exited first, and the low man had to ball up to avoid his deploying canopy. A strong crosswind probabily saved him more than anything else as it pulled the PC and canopy off to the left and out of the way of the 2nd guy. The LOW person SHOULD always give the count as they almost always seem to leave ahead of others. In this case the High man gave the count and left a split sec ahead of the other, which is all it took for the other too get directly above him considering they were jumping through a very narrow part of the bridge. May we live long and die out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites badenhop 0 #13 September 11, 2005 Hello, That is cool video. "Combat BASE" circa 1995. John Hoover was at Bridge Day then, Seth Blake and I enjoyed a nice two-way that day, Nic Hartshorne had not even made his first BASE jump yet. I know it's off topic, ten years just flicked by. Avery================================== I've got all I need, Jesus and gravity. Dolly Parton http://www.AveryBadenhop.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 0 Go To Topic Listing
dmcoco84 5 #7 September 11, 2005 What jump number was that for you yuri? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #8 September 11, 2005 As Rhonda mentioned, that video was from Bridge Day 1995/Extremes and I currently own the sole copyright. Ya gotta love how easy it is for people to copy your videos without permission and put them all over the internet.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFK 0 #9 September 11, 2005 Trying to understand in order not to make the same mistakes again. Let me know what you think of that: Usually in multiple ways you define the exit order to stack the openings. In that case you can see, according to the opening sequence that the girl is slider down and the guys slider up. It is logical that the girl should pitch first (canopy opening faster). As she is making the count she will definitely leave before the other ones if they are not vigilent enough , best is to count together to get the rythm and exit exactly when you want to exit. The cameramen should leave almost at the same time to be able to clear the girl's pilot chute. The second guy should leave a split second later because he is behind the 2 others and he shouldn't push them at the exit. Leaving really late, the second guy ends up head low because he is focusing on the girl, he is too high when she throws and as she has an offheading, he can't avoid hitting it. The unstability as well as the offheadings are not the main cause of the incident, with a 35° right offheading, the cameramen would have probably cleared it. Timing seems to be the critical point to avoid such situations, the easiest could have been to spread the 3 way on the widht of the bridge, which might not have been possible at that bridge day. Jul.JFK #1013 PM Me No Adrenalin.... No Fun! "Minds are like parachutes the Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #10 September 11, 2005 Quote Leaving really late, the second guy ends up head low because he is focusing on the girl, he is too high when she throws and as she has an offheading, he can't avoid hitting it. Don't be fooled by the video. He probably has faster reaction time and better spatial awareness than anyone you've ever run into. He was getting out of the way the split-second he saw her start to pitch. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFK 0 #11 September 11, 2005 QuoteQuote Leaving really late, the second guy ends up head low because he is focusing on the girl, he is too high when she throws and as she has an offheading, he can't avoid hitting it. Don't be fooled by the video. He probably has faster reaction time and better spatial awareness than anyone you've ever run into. He was getting out of the way the split-second he saw her start to pitch. ok.JFK #1013 PM Me No Adrenalin.... No Fun! "Minds are like parachutes the Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base515 0 #12 September 11, 2005 I've got video, of almost the same thing happening on a bandit jump at this location. Dropping through the arches on a 2way the high man exited first, and the low man had to ball up to avoid his deploying canopy. A strong crosswind probabily saved him more than anything else as it pulled the PC and canopy off to the left and out of the way of the 2nd guy. The LOW person SHOULD always give the count as they almost always seem to leave ahead of others. In this case the High man gave the count and left a split sec ahead of the other, which is all it took for the other too get directly above him considering they were jumping through a very narrow part of the bridge. May we live long and die out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badenhop 0 #13 September 11, 2005 Hello, That is cool video. "Combat BASE" circa 1995. John Hoover was at Bridge Day then, Seth Blake and I enjoyed a nice two-way that day, Nic Hartshorne had not even made his first BASE jump yet. I know it's off topic, ten years just flicked by. Avery================================== I've got all I need, Jesus and gravity. Dolly Parton http://www.AveryBadenhop.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
