mr2mk1g 10 #26 February 10, 2004 Its also important to note that they are canopy specifit. PD reserves should only ever be installed on PD Slinks, PdF on PdF ones etc. I don't see that its a safety thing in that they won't work - but the manufacturer says you "must" so you must or the rigger is breaking the rules and running a risk. (had a long chat with my rigger about this exact issue late last week - apparently one of the local riggers is going to get into deap shit cos they're installing canopies on any old reserve slinks.). There's no such issue with rapide links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #27 February 10, 2004 QuoteIts also important to note that they are canopy specifit. PD reserves should only ever be installed on PD Slinks, PdF on PdF ones etc. I don't see that its a safety thing in that they won't work - but the manufacturer says you "must" so you must or the rigger is breaking the rules and running a risk. The manufacturer cannot say that their links can only be used on their canopies. If you look at a Vector II label it states it is only TSO'd for use with the Safetly Flyer reserve, but you can still put a PD or other reserve in a Vector II. Quote(had a long chat with my rigger about this exact issue late last week - apparently one of the local riggers is going to get into deap shit cos they're installing canopies on any old reserve slinks.). It is up to the assembling rigger to determine compatability of TSO'd components. The rigger that used PD's Slinks on another reserve can't get in trouble for doing so unless the assembly was incompatable. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #28 February 10, 2004 The way it was explaned to me is that a reserve may only be installed under UK regs in accordance with the manufacturers instructions. If the manufactuer says you can only install it on PD Slinks then by installing it on any other type of slinks you are doing so contrary to manfacturers instructions. Apparently installing a reserve contrary to manufactuers instructions is a no-no under UK regs and a rigger can get himself up shit creak. But I'm the first to admit that I don't know, I'm not a rigger - the above comes soley from a convo with my rigger. I can tell you what I think about the possbile legal consequenses of installing a canopy contrary to the manufacturers specific instructions - should something happen in consequence of that installation of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #29 February 10, 2004 Sorry, I didn't realize you wre in the UK. I don't know anything about the UK regs. In the U.S. it is left up to the assembling rigger to determine compatability. Riggers are tasked with following the manufacturer's instructions, but the manufacturer cannot contradict the FAR's. For example, the manufacturer can say you can only jump their rigs if you are wearing a pink jumpsuit or can only us xyz reserve, but that means nothing. It would be interesting if you asked your rigger if they have ever packed any other reserve besides a Safety Flyer into a Vector II Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #30 February 10, 2004 Quote To date we have only heard of one failed Slink and that was caused by a rough edge on a slider grommet. I remember that. I think the problem was that the user used to have rapid links with bad bumpers which beat up the slider grommet causing nicks. So if you're going from hard metal to slinks, make sure your slider grommets aren't chewed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #31 February 10, 2004 >>We have also heard of one accident caused by a steering line catching on the end tab of a Slink, but that was caused by an odd-ball method of stowing excess steering line ... << I do not know how odd-ball that method is - I saw someone using it two weekends ago. When I mentioned it, they told me they "had never had a problem" and went on about their business. I have always found that not having had a problem to date is an odd reason to do something unsafe. If I successfully point a revolver with one bullet in it at my head and pull the trigger, should I do it again because it was not a problem last time? Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites