stevebabin 0 #1 March 7, 2005 Are there any disadvantages to routing your brake lines through the guide rings on a slider down PCA jump? (aside from the obvious inablilty to clear a line over...)"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 March 7, 2005 Aside from the obvious... Be sure you have adjusted the toggles correctly for the line length. If your toggles are set for slider off, your control lines are going to (effectively) be too short when routed through the rings. And, of course, be sure to use a tailgate (I hope that sounds obvious to the point of trite).-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chadkal 0 #3 March 8, 2005 hey steve you should probably explain the situation as it occured and then repose your question. you may get a more informative answer -------------------------------------------------- I am a greek midget Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #4 March 8, 2005 205ft Span, Velcro rig, Dagger 266, PCA, slider down, tailgate,line mod. On opening, the right toggle wasn't there. Flew and landed with rear risers. I was wondering what considerations there might be to routing the brake lines inside the guide rings. With the tailgate(hopefully) preventing line-overs, would this be advisable? Specifically, are there any packing or opening anomalies to consider with this setup? Any insightful thoughts? Thanks, Steve Babin"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pBASEtobe 0 #5 March 8, 2005 I'm currently working on an idea to solve this problem. It should be done (hopefully) in a month or so. Afterwards which I'll be sending the final product to Tom for some test jumps. If he's willing to still do it that is. Tom...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #6 March 8, 2005 QuoteAre there any disadvantages to routing your brake lines through the guide rings on a slider down PCA jump? (aside from the obvious inablilty to clear a line over...) You just want to stow the toggles so you can open your beer BASEstore.it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornishe 0 #7 March 8, 2005 You can use the WLO Toggles from Vertigo (or similar products) if you really want to route through the guide rings and maintain a way of releasing the toggle. Here's a link... http://www.vertigobase.com/html/page.asp?F=prod_accessories.htm#WLO%20TOGGLES Russell, start a new thread with pics of what you are working on. Cheers,Abbie Mashaal Skydive Idaho Snake River Skydiving TandemBASE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #8 March 8, 2005 i would say its a bad idea... Having a lineover on a Lowish PCA jump is lower than i want a line over that i cant just pop... Practice in landing on rear riser,i did after a broken fib n tib it can happen Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pBASEtobe 0 #9 March 8, 2005 QuoteRussell, start a new thread with pics of what you are working on. No pics available yet. Apex is busy building the new risers for me. I will post all about it at a later date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #10 March 8, 2005 I do have WLO toggles on this rig. It did not feel like I would have enough altitude to jettison a brake line after opening (on this jump). Thanks for the input, though. Steve edited for content."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitflybaseboy 0 #11 March 9, 2005 It is true that you would not loose a toggle on opening, but if you have a lineover you will have to land it. It might or might not work out landing a lineover. It becomes much more difficult to pick your landing area and get a safe landing. On this particular jump there is barely enough time to unstow , turn and land without vents,when everything works right. A lineover might put you in the trees, thorns ,or creek. My point is that even if you maintain your toggle, by packing through the guide ring and slider, you are still going to give up a little time identifying the problem and locating you toggle, which might still put you in the small trees. I vote for line mod on this particular jump,as there is DEFINITELY not enough time to use WLO release on this jump. So you can roll the dice on not getting a line over on this jump if you decide to pack through the rings/slider. The chance of line over is slim on this type of jump, but still a definite possibility. I just like the idea of being able to clear a mal, because if I were the person deciding to pack through the slider/ guide ring, I would be the one in ten thousand with the line over 321CYA SitflybaseboyBASE 1043 Night BASE 160 BASE is to skydivers as skydiving is to whuffos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
