smit705 0 #1 January 21, 2004 I am fairly new to this great sport, so please excuse me if this question seems silly. When securing brake lines to toggles, should the overhand knot be under the toggle toward the risers or on top? Does it really matter? If on top, is there a possilbilty of suspensions lines hanging up on the knot during deployment? Thanks Dave Smith In Christ Dave Smith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 January 21, 2004 I don't use an overhand knot. When testing for correct length of brake setting I use a bowline. Afterward if I want a cleaner instalation I fingertrap a loop at the setting I want and sew it down to prevent slipage. A bartack works well but a single needle or zig zag can be used too. If I am picturing the meathod you're using correctly, the knot should be almost inside the grommet, exiting on the bottom side of the toggle.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #3 January 21, 2004 QuoteI don't use an overhand knot. When testing for correct length of brake setting I use a bowline. Afterward if I want a cleaner instalation I fingertrap a loop at the setting I want and sew it down to prevent slipage. A bartack works well but a single needle or zig zag can be used too. If I am picturing the meathod you're using correctly, the knot should be almost inside the grommet, exiting on the bottom side of the toggle. Yup. You are right JP. The knot should be inside the grommet. That was common place before high performance canopy issues. Keeps the knot out of the way to prevent it from hanging up. Make sure the excess line is finger trapped back inside the steering line too. When in doubt. Have your rigger take a look and help you out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigging65 0 #4 January 21, 2004 Figure out the length you want, then have a loop trapped in and sewn down after you've test jumped it and done a full stall test on it...ask someone if you don't understand what I just said. That way you never have to worry about knots. "...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you long to return..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #5 January 22, 2004 How long should the canopy take to stall? My lines are setup with about 2 inches of slack, and at full arm extension, the canopy doesn't immediatly stall, it takes a little while (I don't know how long) This is a "slow"stall, going from full flight to full brakes slowly. I can't remeber about a fast stall, I haven't done one in a little while...-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 January 22, 2004 QuoteHow long should the canopy take to stall? A count of between 3-4 seconds at full arm extention and you should feel the canopy "rock" back and begin to fall outta the sky. The guideline above works pretty well untill you reach small enough canopy sizes at high loadings. Then it doesn't because the control range is shorter than your range of motion. In this case you'll have to find the stall point by other means.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #7 January 22, 2004 QuoteA count of between 3-4 seconds at full arm extention and you should feel the canopy "rock" back and begin to fall outta the sky. That sounds about right.... Cheers-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smit705 0 #8 January 22, 2004 Thank You all, Sounds good! Dave In Christ Dave Smith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
