DShiznit 0 #1 January 14, 2004 Anyone every heard of this canopy? Pros/cons? I found a hell of a deal on a 196 sq/ft canopy that looks pretty new. Any advice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #2 January 14, 2004 13 replies to what kind of shoes you wear, but nothing here?? Someone has to know something about them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #3 January 14, 2004 LMAO sorry - never heard of it and wouldnt be qualified to comment if I had. edit to ad: GOTTCHA - bet ya thought you had a useful reply Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #4 January 14, 2004 QuoteLMAO sorry - never heard of it and wouldnt be qualified to comment if I had. edit to ad: GOTTCHA - bet ya thought you had a useful reply Sorry bastard...... edit - I was hoping to see hooknswoop, billvon, or Ron reply.... You know, someone that can give me a semi-useful answer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 January 14, 2004 Bogies are 9-cell canopies made of F-111 fabric by FTS or APS during the late 1980s and early 1990s. Because they are made of F-111, you should not load them more than one pound per square foot. Also do not expect anywhere near the longevity, opening or landing performance you would get from ZP fabric. The difference in performance had more to do with the airfoil section, line trim, etc. than the choice of fabric. You are comparing different GENERATIONS of canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #6 January 14, 2004 Thank you sir, that's what I was looking for!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy6554 3 #7 January 14, 2004 HI...I have an old Rascal 202 reserve made by the same company. At one time, FTS was at the "cutting edge" of the sport... TSO cat c that was supposed to be much stronger than anything on the market at that time. I've jumped another rascal 202 as a main and it was OK, nothing spectacular, but safe ride to the ground and typical performance for 7 cell reserve at that time. the Bogey is probably similar. Bottom line....if it's in good shape and the price is right, it could be a good deal. Just old technology and nothing razzle dazzle. Probably good for several hundred jumps if it's in good shape now. could be a great beginner's canopy. My two cents! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #8 January 15, 2004 Bogies are a thinner airfoil than either the Rascal or Laser series. They were actually all made as seven, EIGHT, and nine cell canopies. I put the test jumps on every size of the canopy in it's smaller sizes (down to 150, the smallest). They were decent F-111 canopies and flew as good as anything else on the market back then. The original FTS canopies were built in Dave Davenports house right outside Fort Benning, GA and in my dad's loft in Opelika, AL. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #9 February 16, 2004 Sorry, since you didn't reply to me, I never saw this post until I went searching for this thread to re-read what was said. Turns out I am going to be getting this canopy as a temporary until I can find something else that I want, so I'll probably only have around 50-75 jumps on it total, if that. It will be loaded at 1.12:1 Good enough for a beginner for this long? I'm looking for a Safire/2 or Sabre/2 replacement, but to use this for free, I really can't turn that down...... or should I? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #10 February 16, 2004 QuoteThey were actually all made as seven, EIGHT, and nine cell canopies. Very cool. I have often wondered why manufacturers choose odd-number cells. Is it because their is a difference of load at the center of the canopy? If that's the case, I can see how the seams of the center cell might not be as strong as having cell fabric there.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #11 February 16, 2004 Picture of an even-number cell canopy, if anybody is interested. It looks like it's flying OK. The wierdest main I've ever seen (in photos only, unfortunately) was an 11 cell, 6 riser monstrosity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #12 February 16, 2004 LOL - picture looks circa 1972 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatbomb 0 #13 February 17, 2004 Dude! Check out the central attachment point with a line to each riser...The slider grommets must have been on top of one another when that thing was packed! That is way cool --- Swoopert, CS-Aiiiiiii! Piccies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #14 February 17, 2004 Nothing wrong with having 6 risers Anyone got pics of that triangular russian canopy with only the centre 3 cells having an open nose?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #15 February 17, 2004 QuoteAnyone got pics of that triangular russian canopy with only the centre 3 cells having an open nose? This one? GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #16 February 17, 2004 That's not a canopy, that's a blimp! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #17 February 17, 2004 QuoteCheck out the central attachment point with a line to each riser... I think that explains why odd-numbered cells are more common. The lines on each side go to the riser on that side. With even numbered cells, you need to have a group that goes to both left pair and right pair risers.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
