Vision Closing Instructions

[ojf1982 0]

I just received an almost new (30 jumps) GS Vision. Can someone post the closing instructions for the container? I have not made any BASE jumps, but I am compiling gear (dont have a canopy yet) and want to know as much as possible about how to assemble it and how it functions.
Also, on the shrivel flap, the bottom part, I assume is where the bridle is attatched to the pilot chute, but I cannot figure out what the top part attaches to.

The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson

[motherhucker 0]

dude.
seriously.
you need to find a mentor and have him SHOW you.
you do not want to learn to close a BASE rig on the internet.

SERIOUSLY.

[KevinMcGuire 0]

I have to agree with Motherhucker. You are entering very dangerous territory and to do so blind and with out help will most surely be fatal.

[andy2 0]

I am looking foward to when I start BASE jumping under the instruction of a responsible/experienced mentor not only for the amount of wisdom he can impart to me, but also as a way to meet other jumpers to share awesome loads with. Just another reason that finding a mentor is critical, in my inexperienced opinion.

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let my inspiration flow,
in token rhyme suggesting rhythm...

[pullhigh 0]

Mentors are supposed to be responsible? I had better re-think my choices here....

Ganja "Read all the warning signs" Rodriguez

[motherhucker 0]

as a follow-up:

play out your current scenario in your head...it could end up like this:


taken from: http://juliabell.home.att.net/

#71 Bill Frogge, January 27, 2003
Cliff Jump
Echo Canyon, Moab, USA
Total Malfunction
Impact

"Bill is doing a two way and is hand holding his BASE pilot chute. After a normal
freefall Bill threw out the pilot chute. The pilot chute inflated, went to the end of
its bridle and peeled the shrivel flap from the rig. However, the shrivel flap is not
connected to the canopy. Speculation is Bill is distracted while putting his rig together
and may have passed the Type-12 bridle through the attachment ring on the top of
canopy but didn't complete the lark's head knot that would have secured it in place.
The bridle had a bar tack on it that could catch in the ring and give the appearance
the bridle is correctly attached to the canopy. Parachute Riggers have known for a
long time that when you start any job you finish it. If you are distracted, and need
to leave the work, you start the procedure over on your return. Not having a pilot
chute connected to the canopy on a single canopy system has always been a nightmare
scenario for BASE jumpers, however, this is the first time it has actually happened."

again...
FIND A MENTOR.

[BASE813 0]

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Also, on the shrivel flap, the bottom part, I assume is where the bridle is attatched to the pilot chute, but I cannot figure out what the top part attaches to

Seak someone

[ojf1982 0]

I agree with ALL of you about getting a mentor, unfortunately, everytime I have asked on dz.com and the base boards about a local mentor in my area, no one seems to respond and I am pretty sure there has to be someone around, but no one has answered my call. I have asked around my DZ and no ones knows because there are no base jumpers at my home dz. I have been wanting to do some ground work but since I cant find any locals, I am shit out of luck. So if anyone can help me find a local mentor in my area, I would greatly appreciate it.

I dont want any flaming, and i understand your concerns, but I am not going to go jump as soon as I get a canopy. I am also saving up for a first jump course. I understand that this is a dangerous sport, but please dont criticize me for asking how my gear works, I am just curious and was asking a simple question.

The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson

[motherhucker 0]

lighten up brah.

Trust me, you have not seen one ounce of criticism from this thread. Props for not trying to go about it yourself without proper instruction. Even if you are the world's most heads up newbie, that doesn't insure that all the other un-knowledgeable people reading gear setup instructions won't try and kill themselves.

I suspect that if you can't find a BASE jumper in FL that you're not looking hard enough... butI happen to know of a man moving from my area to yours in the next week who would be a good mentor. PM me and I'll ask him if it's ok to give you his number.

[TomAiello 26]

Any FJC will answer all those questions, and more. I'm hesitant to try to explain this on-line, as it's the kind of thing where a mistake will have a high likelihood of resulting in a fatality.

Alternatively, have you considered driving the four or so hours up to Deland and asking Rob at Morpheus to show you?

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[czechbase 0]

I might get flamed again but here goes:

What if you're in a country where there are zero or a handful of BASE jumpers who don't have that much experience?

What if there are a couple of BASE jumpers, but don't want to let you groundcrew?

What if you're in a far corner of the globe and can't afford to go to the US for a FJC?

Asia comes to mind.

I wonder if there is anyone else with these kind of obstacles?

Peace.

Matthew

www.motavi.com

[Faber 0]

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What if you're in a country where there are zero or a handful of BASE jumpers who don't have that much experience?

ask thouse who are there,what they did.

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What if there are a couple of BASE jumpers, but don't want to let you groundcrew?

They must then have a reason. find out and fix that problem

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What if you're in a far corner of the globe and can't afford to go to the US for a FJC?

mony aint a issue here,we are talking about your life

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

[TomAiello 26]

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What if you're in a country where there are zero or a handful of BASE jumpers who don't have that much experience?

The traditional answer is to send the most interested, able and financially endowed of the locals who are interested (it might just be one) to another part of the world to learn. Then he comes home and shares the knowledge with everyone else.

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What if there are a couple of BASE jumpers, but don't want to let you groundcrew?

Try looking for others. Or keep trying to convince them.

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What if you're in a far corner of the globe and can't afford to go to the US for a FJC?

You could easily just wait two months, and many of the world's best BASE jumpers will come to you. Why don't you just show up at the event and start asking for help? It won't be a long term solution, but it will be a heck of a start.

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I wonder if there is anyone else with these kind of obstacles?

Sure there are. And everyone deals with them the best they can. But your situation and Omar's are pretty removed from each other. He can drive four hours and get to a BASE gear manufacturer (and all their knowledge).

I do understand that your situation is difficult. There are others that are more difficult, but the vast majority of people will have an easier time learning.

What I'd really suggest is grabbing some of the jumpers who pass through (there are many, many of them who pass through your hometown every year, even when events aren't scheduled) and learning as much as you can from each of them, in the time they are around.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[czechbase 0]

"What I'd really suggest is grabbing some of the jumpers who pass through (there are many, many of them who pass through your hometown every year, even when events aren't scheduled) and learning as much as you can from each of them, in the time they are around"

How do I get in touch with the guys that pass through here? I mean, when events aren't scheduled?

Thanks for the help

www.motavi.com

[BASE813 0]

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can't afford to go to the US for a FJC?

1) take longer to save up
2) sell things you own
3) get a second job
4) dump your girlfriend and spend all available time working and earning money


This IS your life and money should not be an issue for this

If you see money as an obstacle just ask yourself how much do you want BASE??

I got myself into debt, sold all my skydiving equipment and spent months without money to go on the FJC - I spent alot of money to get what i wanted.

There are always ways around the "money obstacle"....................

[TomAiello 26]

I'd start by going to the event and meeting as many people as you can. Pass the word that you are a local, and you want to learn, and you can help people with finding things in the city, recommend good restaurants, etc.

Travelling BASE jumpers generally love to meet the locals. If you can offer them a place to stay for a few days, that'd be tops, because you could pick their brains the whole time.

Once word filters out that there's a new local in town, you'll find that travelling jumpers are showing up on your doorstep all the time.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[czechbase 0]

Ok guys, so you know who to call on your next trip to Malaysia!

Discos, good food, hotel arrangements, a place to stay? I can do!
Matthew

www.motavi.com

[motherhucker 0]

Where do you live in KL? If you're close enough I'll just stay with you if/when I come and we'll call it good.
mh

[460 0]

Here's the answer:

All velcro rigs close basically the same way, with slight variations related to the container shape.

go to http://www.basicresearch.com and look under "REFERENCE/BR's owner manual" That will have all the relevant info. Their velcro rig is the
Reactor.

A few very important points:
1) make sure your velcro shrivel flap is oriented upright relative to the rig so that it shrivels open in case you're head down.
2) the shrivel flap, bridle, and pilot chute are properly attached. Especially the pilot chute. This is where errors sometimes occur. Lark's head loop the bridle through the *loop* of the pilot chute centerline tape. Please ask questions if you are not certain. Please get advice/assistance from a competent rigger is confused.
3) Do not run the brake lines outside the slider and keeper ring if you are jumping slider or mesh slider up. Otherwise, your slider will not come down before impact. The line-mod is to be used slider down with appropriate toggles (to prevent toggle jams when a lot of force is placed on them)

Good luck and have fun. Most of this gear stuff is pretty brainless once you know the basic rules.

-BASE 460

Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174