ojf1982 0 #1 June 18, 2003 I am going to be take a FJC for BASE, and am considering buying this gear which is mentioned in the classifieds. I am just about the same height and weight as the person I am buying it from which should fit me well. Can any experienced jumpers tell me if I am getting a good deal or not? Reactor Rig with Fox 225 Canopy for Sale. Reactor rig has articulated harness (rings at hips) fits small person, 5’5”, 150lbs or so. Color: purple and teal with “Enigma” embroidered on the shrivel flap. Fox 225 is purple and teal. Rig comes with stash bag, mesh slider, 42” & 48” pilot chutes, owner’s manual, Pro-tech helmet, “Boneless” knee pads, and the following packing tools: crescent wrench, packing bands, 4 clamps, PVC pipe. Rig has never been jumped! Canopy has been flown twice in a skydiving rig. This gear is brand new! All this gear is worth over $2,000. I’m getting married in August and need to liquidate gear. $1,100 gets you the rig shipped to your door C.O.D.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 June 18, 2003 TomA has pointed out to me a few times the your first Base canopy should be your body weight + 100 to geive you the SQ footage needed. Might be a tad zippy of a canopy, but then again I know next to nothing about BASE.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #3 June 18, 2003 Phree is correct. Read this posting from blinc. There will be no reason to read the rest of my post. The deal is good but the size is very questionable for your weight. Unlike skydiving where we suggest you don't downsize but you do it any way... We REALLY suggest you don't get too small of a BASE parachute. A 225 is pretty small if you weigh 150 or so. I put around 30 jumps on a 220 and baught a 240 to replace it. I'd even be happy with a 260. The body weight plus 100 is a pretty accurate guidline. As BASE jumpers progress in their carreer, the trend is to Up size. There's a very good reason for that. If you're always jumping into a large field not filled with rocks and Trees, or Streetlights stairs Mail boxes, Curbs and such.. then the 225 will get you buy. Keep in mind you have any where from as little as a few seconds before you land. Size does matter. Hope that helps.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #4 June 18, 2003 I don't think I've ever heard of a BASE jumper downsizing on his next BASE canopy purchase. Bigger is better.....a 225 sounds small to me. Good luck.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojf1982 0 #5 June 18, 2003 Would the container be able to hold a canopy one size bigger?The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #6 June 18, 2003 You'd have to ask the owner. A Reactor can take two size canopies usually but if the 225 is already the bigger of the two compatible sizes, then no. I don't know if you've ever tried to pack a tight velcro rig, but I have and it's terrible. It's so hard to close the container that you'd end up distorting the hell out of the packjob. Once you did get it closed, if you could, it wouldn't stay closed. As soon as you bent over to tighten a strap or pick up your helmet, or climb a fence/ladder... pop! Out comes the canopy. Right in the dirt. Whew! What a waste of time. I actually had a rig open on me at the exit point once. Yeah, I don't jump that rig anymore. If you've seen how slow I pack, you'll understand what I mean. edit: Typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #7 June 18, 2003 Quote I put around 30 jumps on a 220 and baught a 240 to replace it. I'd even be happy with a 260. did 30 jumps in a 225,got a kick out off the sport the next 8,5month by a injury under the 225, got a new 265 which just is lovely Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 June 18, 2003 Some things you might want to ask: QuoteReactor Rig What kind of Reactor? The Reactor 4 is a great rig. Older Reactors were not my favorites because they (a) were tight and hard to close, (b) sometimes peeled accidentally, and (c) had unstiffened side flaps. Obviously, BR didn't like these characteristics either, as they changed all of them in the latest Reactor (the Reactor 4). QuoteFOX 225 Canopy Is the Canopy vented (vtec)? Is it valved (Vtec with covers)? I believe that the list price of the vents is $150, and the valves are $350, so if the canopy has those, it's worth more (to you, and to resell). QuoteReactor rig has articulated harness Seems like an added frill (and cost) that won't benefit a beginner. The only time I've thought articulation was useful was on advanced (i.e. multiple rotations slider down) aerials. Quote150lbs A 225 seems quite small for a 150 pound jumper. If you are exclusively jumping towers (especially in wind) it might be ok. It'll land hard on a city street, though. Quotepurple and teal I'd want to see the gear and decide how loud it was. If you are jumping exclusively legal sights, loud is fine. If you're jumping high profile illegal stuff, though, stealth is the way to go. QuoteRig comes with stash bag, mesh slider, 42" & 48" pilot chutes, owner?s manual, Pro-tech helmet, 'Boneless' knee pads, and the following packing tools: crescent wrench, packing bands, 4 clamps, PVC pipe. So, basically, it's the standard BR package (lists for $1950 with the Reactor 4), plus a helmet, knee pads and some tools (BTW, what the heck is the PVC pipe for?). QuoteAll this gear is worth over $2,000. I?m getting married in August and need to liquidate gear. $1,100 gets you the rig shipped to your door C.O.D. $1100 does seem like quite a deal for the gear, assuming that it's a Reactor 4. I'd still be concerned about the sizing, though. BTW, am I the only one who capitalizes the abbreviation F.O.X. (Fixed Object eXpress)?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crimpfiend 0 #9 June 18, 2003 IMHO, a 225 is way too small for a 150 lb. person's first BASE canopy. I agree w/ 428 that people rarely downsize their canopies as they gain experience & purchase more gear. A 225 may be a fine choice for you if you're trying to broaden your quiver after you've got some jumps under your belt or if you're jumping in Norway, certain places in Europe or sites with good landing areas. Barring that, I'd say aim for a minimum size of 240-ish. I'm = 100 lbs. & my canopy of choice for many jumps is a 225. Also, I wouldn't bother w/ buying the Reactor for a larger canopy unless it's an Reactor 4 "loose" (really loose) fit for the 225. Ask & find out. Have fun, stay alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojf1982 0 #10 June 18, 2003 Thanks to everyone who replied, I really appreciate it.. I will be following the advice of getting a bigger canopy. have contacted the seeler to see if he would just sell me the container.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #11 June 18, 2003 I guess if I ever want to get into BASE, I'll have to find a used tandem canopy for my 220 lbs ass.....Remster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #12 June 18, 2003 doesnt BR make a big container, that fits like 325 or something? Maybe Im wrong and read they were planning on developing one like that... --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #13 June 18, 2003 QuoteI guess if I ever want to get into BASE, I'll have to find a used tandem canopy for my 220 lbs ass..... You're covered, there are canopies in the 320 range.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #14 June 18, 2003 QuoteI guess if I ever want to get into BASE, I'll have to find a used tandem canopy for my 220 lbs ass..... Somewhere, a fat American BASE jumper is laughing... -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveO 0 #15 June 18, 2003 My 200 lb ass is flying sweet under a Flik 293 now. And BR makes one size bigger. "When it comes to BASE, I'll never give advice, only my opinion" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #16 June 19, 2003 Somewhere, a fat American BASE jumper is laughing... reply Hahahahahahaha from south kakalakie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites